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What is this piece? Master Salt?
What is this piece? Master Salt?
I need help identifying this item...is is a master salt? Also, I am having trouble finding who made it. I used the hallmark guide and came up with the following: Sterling, London, 1874, and a duty of 1838-1890.
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Your cup was almost certainly made in Horace Woodward's Birmingham factory, assayed in London in 1874-5 where he had registered a mark in 1870 very like the one photographed. It was probably sold through his showrooms at Holborn Viaduct. Woodward employed artists specifically to design cups.
The slight joining at the base of the two initials is the reason for the lack of absolute certainty. When used here the punch may have been somewhat worn causing a distortion but there were one or two other makers with the initials HT registered at London around this time who might have produced the cup and who used a pellet after the H.
Hope this helps.
Mike
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Your cup was almost certainly made in Horace Woodward's Birmingham factory, assayed in London in 1874-5 where he had registered a mark in 1870 very like the one photographed. It was probably sold through his showrooms at Holborn Viaduct. Woodward employed artists specifically to design cups.
The slight joining at the base of the two initials is the reason for the lack of absolute certainty. When used here the punch may have been somewhat worn causing a distortion but there were one or two other makers with the initials HT registered at London around this time who might have produced the cup and who used a pellet after the H.
Hope this helps.
Mike
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Apart from the dimensions and the detachable nature of the cup the photograph shows a shield hence the thought it was a trophy cup! It could now be a salt; if there's a glass liner even more so.
For the stand and cup to have originally been part of a whole both pieces should have the same hallmarks. If not there may have been a marriage.
If the more complex mark you saw for Horace Woodward is the cross shape in the forum's makers menu this was a later registered one for Horace Woodward & Co Ltd.
I still favour Horace Woodward as the mark you show (HW not HT as typed in error previously)
Mike
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For the stand and cup to have originally been part of a whole both pieces should have the same hallmarks. If not there may have been a marriage.
If the more complex mark you saw for Horace Woodward is the cross shape in the forum's makers menu this was a later registered one for Horace Woodward & Co Ltd.
I still favour Horace Woodward as the mark you show (HW not HT as typed in error previously)
Mike
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Mike is using the same deductions as I when he comments on the shield befitting a trophy more than a piece made for the table. Were it made as a table piece, the shield would have been a grape-leaf (left plain for engraving) to be more harmonious with the rest of the cup. If the existing insert is removable it would need to be marked, and those marks should match the ones on the base. Otherwise, it is most likely a replacement. For so ornate a base one could expect an upper section to co-ordinate with it.
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