Please help me to identify the unknown marks. Thanks
Spoon with unknown marks
Spoon with unknown marks
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Please help me to identify the unknown marks. Thanks
Please help me to identify the unknown marks. Thanks
Re: Spoon with unknown marks
Hi - Was trawling through the forum listings tonight and spotted this fascinating spoon.
Was wondering if this could not be the rose (crown rubbed or missing) of Norwich
Also searched every W with a co-joined initial in my ancient copy of Jacksons (itself nearly an antique) and the only mark I could come up with that bore a resemblance was of William Rawnson of York, on a 1592 mark noted on a communion cup. But while both marks have some wear not totally convinced. Also the town mark of York is essentially asymetrical and I am not sure whether they had such things as marrow spoons at this date - although that could be a later conversion.
But the one thing the search did show that makers marks with co-joined letters are invariably early and often pre the Britannia period.
But am not an expert in these things - here in SA we never see spoons of this vintage so have never handled one. We get excited by George I and George II pieces. But the real experts are out there so thought I might bump this up to the top of the list - and say great looking spoon.
Regards Frank
PS Looks like there might be the trace of a mark in the bowl near the stem (possibly the hind legs of a lion passant or top of a crown) but might be imagining it.
Was wondering if this could not be the rose (crown rubbed or missing) of Norwich
Also searched every W with a co-joined initial in my ancient copy of Jacksons (itself nearly an antique) and the only mark I could come up with that bore a resemblance was of William Rawnson of York, on a 1592 mark noted on a communion cup. But while both marks have some wear not totally convinced. Also the town mark of York is essentially asymetrical and I am not sure whether they had such things as marrow spoons at this date - although that could be a later conversion.
But the one thing the search did show that makers marks with co-joined letters are invariably early and often pre the Britannia period.
But am not an expert in these things - here in SA we never see spoons of this vintage so have never handled one. We get excited by George I and George II pieces. But the real experts are out there so thought I might bump this up to the top of the list - and say great looking spoon.
Regards Frank
PS Looks like there might be the trace of a mark in the bowl near the stem (possibly the hind legs of a lion passant or top of a crown) but might be imagining it.
Re: Spoon with unknown marks
In England you won't normally find marrow spoons earlier than the 1690s. The bowl shape of this spoon doesn't look quite right for an English example from that period and indeed less so for a later spoon. A view of the back of the bowl might help with dating and placing. Does it have a rattail? If so, of what sort? If not, what sort of drop does it have on the bowl?
If it is 17th century English I am afraid there are several unattributed rose type marks and I don't know of a maker with a WR conjoined mark in this shape of punch. If it is later I don't think these will be English marks.
If it is 17th century English I am afraid there are several unattributed rose type marks and I don't know of a maker with a WR conjoined mark in this shape of punch. If it is later I don't think these will be English marks.
Re: Spoon with unknown marks
Hi Agphile - thanks - and great to know when marrow spoons came into being. That being the case, the bowl shape definitely looks wrong. Regards Frank
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