hallmark

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schmidhead
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hallmark

Postby schmidhead » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:09 am

here are pictures of a 37 PIECE silverware set that I cannot match the hallmarks to any country. thee are only 2 hallmarks: the 85G and the lions.
help.....
http://schmidhead.free.fr/CRY_0002_2.JPG
http://schmidhead.free.fr/CRY_0007.JPG
http://schmidhead.free.fr/CRY_0008.JPG

kozy845
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Postby kozy845 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:57 am

I think the "84" hallmark means that it originated in either Russia, Latvia or Poland. More than that I can't figure out. The flatware seems quite contemporary to me, though I'm no expert and might be totally off course.

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Postby Bahner » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:35 am

Hello, this is plate. The 84 is for the amount of fine silver used during electroplating (84 Gramms) and can very often be found on French cutlery . I don't know the maker, though. My guess too: must be quite recent. Best wishes, Bahner.

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Postby kozy845 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:47 pm

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize that "84" was used in more than one context. Maybe that is why people have told me to beware of Russian silver, that the hallmarks may be fake. They were probably confusing it with French silverplate. I know of a precious metal scrapper that normally pays cash for silver. But when it comes to item marked "84" he won't pay until it's been assayed. Thanks so much for the information.

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Postby admin » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:27 pm

Here is a great explanatory post on the meaning of numbers in silverplate marks. The subject is German silverplate, but similar systems were used on French and Dutch silverplate as well.

viewtopic.php?t=9111

schmidhead
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Postby schmidhead » Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:04 pm

I did get it in France

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Postby Bahner » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:59 pm

Hello, just added some thoughts on French silverplated cutlery. See here:


viewtopic.php?p=25398#25398


Scroll down for the second post of this thread. Best wishes, Bahner


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