Silversmiths & Allied Trades - Dublin- 18th -19th Century

For information you'd like to share - Post it here - not for questions
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Silversmiths & Allied Trades - Dublin- 18th -19th Century

Post by dognose »

Hi,

A listing of silversmiths and allied trades culled from 'Wilson's Dublin Directory' of 1832.

Part One

Image

Trev.

To be continued.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Part Two

Image

Trev.

To Be Continued.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Part Three

Image

Trev.

To be continued.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Part Four

Image

Trev.

To be continued.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Part Five

Image

Trev.

To be continued.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Part Six

Image

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

In 1835 a Parliamentry Report was published reviewing the results found by a Select Committee that was appointed to 'Inquire into the nature, character, extent and tendency of Orange Lodges, Associations or Societies in Ireland.' The Report casts a little light on the type of business operated by two of the firms mentioned in the above Directory, by means of quoted advertisments.

Roman Catholic Plate Establishment; William Coinan, goldsmith and jeweller, No. 19, Skinner-row, respectfully informs the Catholic clergy and the public in general, that he is as usual supplied with the following articles, viz., chalices, remonstrances, thurables, altar cruets and oil stocks; pixes, and a variety of candlesticks suitable for the altar, &c.; with every other article in the silver plated and jewellery line, which he shall dispose of on the most reasonable terms; he also wishes to inform the reverend clergymen that he has been authorized by the most Rev. Dr. Murray and Dr. Doyle to repair and handle consecrated articles.

and

Chapel Plate and Plated Ware Establishment; William Mooney, manufacturing silversmith and jeweller, (successor to Mr. John Kavanagh,) 32 Capel-street, with gratitude for past favours, begs to apprize the Bishops and Clergy that he has always ready manufactured for their particular use an extensive supply, both of silver and plated Catholic utensils, which he pledges himself to dispose of for very moderate profit,, and to keep no article but of the very best manufacture. W. M. is authorized to handle any article that may require repair or alteration.

William Coinan is no doubt to be identified with Michael Cainen of the same address, perhaps a son. An indication, perhaps, that that William had taken over his father's business at some time during the three year gap between the pubication of the Directory in 1832 and the Parliamentry Report in 1835.

William Mooney, as can be seen, has taken over the business of John Kavanagh. Kavannagh was a very long established goldsmith and jeweller, known to have been working out of 32, Capel Street since 1783. He entered his mark at the Dublin Assay Office in 1784.

Trev.
.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

A 10" table knife c.1870, the blade made by Jones Lamprey, Cutler, who was noted as working out of 29, Westmorland Street, Dublin, in 1850. The handle bears a Duty and Hibernia marks, but unfortunately lacks a maker's mark.

Image
Image courtesy of Carey Hill

Jones Lamprey is perhaps to be identified with Samuel Lamprey, Cutler, of 28, Dame Street, Dublin, who appears in the above directory.

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Advertisment for Ralph Walsh who appears in the above Directory. The advert is from 1852 and we can see that he has now moved to new premises at 19, Parliament Street.

Image

Image

Ralph Walsh registered with the Dublin Goldsmiths Company in 1829.

Trev.
Last edited by dognose on Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Advertisment for Topham & White from 1865, listed in the above Directory as Edward Topham.

Image

Edward Topham registered with the Dublin Goldsmiths Company in 1824. He appears to have worked on his own until 1826 when his business became Topham & White, this name was to last for sixty years until 1886. In 1887 the firm became known as White & Schopperle.

The 'T&W' mark of Topham & White is sometimes confused with that of Tudor & Whitford, and I have in the past even seen sellers describe their mark as Terry & Williams.

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Samuel Thompson & Co from the above directory.

Image

I've always wondered, did the silversmith order the blades from the cutler and then fit them, or the cutler order the handles from the silversmith and then would he fit them?

Trev.
MCB
moderator
Posts: 2133
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:43 pm
Location: UK

Post by MCB »

Hello Trev,
http://www.sheffield-made.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "It is the cutler's job to assemble the finished knife"
Taking this at face value for all knife manufacture the silver handles would go to the cutler. If the cutler was the retailer he'd keep the finished article; otherwise he'd return it to the silversmith for sale.
Of the 18 cutlers named as such in the above lists I can't find any who registered a mark with Dublin Assay Office so these people didn't make their own silver handles or silver blades in house.
Some of the larger silversmith shops may well have had their own cutlers. In more modern times, as you know, Mappin & Webb knives have their name on the steel blades and their mark on the silver handle. The same process would still seem however to be true i.e. from silversmithing to cutler.
Regards,
Mike
.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Another mystery solved, thanks Mike.

Trev.
.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Advertisment for William Clarke, 33, New Street, Dublin, from 1850.

Image

William Clarke appears to be the successor to Edward Smith who was entered into the above directory.

The work of the clock and watchmakers, like that of the cutlers, often overlaped into the trade of the gold and silversmiths, and is entered here for the sake of completeness.

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

From the below advertisment we can see that the premises of Isaac Barrington Jnr. at 23, Westmoreland Street, as shown in the above chart, are now the home of Schreiber & Sons. Watchmakers, Gold & Silversmiths. This advertisment is from 1874.

Image

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Link to the Trade Card of T. Connor:

http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/s ... _id=358397

This card gives the address as 38, Nassau Street, the above, somewhat later, directory shows that the firm is now known as T. Connor & Son and moved, unless there was renumbering, further up the street to No.48.

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Post by dognose »

Another advertisement for Jones Lamprey of 29, Westmoreland Street, Dublin from 1847.

Image
J. Lamprey - Dublin - 1847

As can be noted from an earlier post, Lamprey was a known supplier of knife blades to the Dublin silversmiths.

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: Silversmiths & Allied Trades--Dublin--1832

Post by dognose »

WILLIAM NOWLAN

21, Whitefriar Street, Dublin

DEATHS

On the 10th instant, at his house in Whitefriar-street, Mr William Nowlan, an eminent silversmith, much regretted by a numerous circle of friends, and an irreparable loss to his disconsolate family.


Source: Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser - 15th January 1833

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: Silversmiths & Allied Trades--Dublin--1832

Post by dognose »

GEORGE BOYD

Dublin


Married

Mr. George Boyd, Jeweller, to Miss Kerr of Fleet Street.


Source: Hoey's Dublin Mercury - 8th/10th November 1770

Trev.
dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 59334
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: Silversmiths & Allied Trades--Dublin--1832

Post by dognose »

FRANCIS WALSH

Castle Street, Dublin


STOLEN or MISLAID, on Monday the 12th inst. November, the following numbers in the Exchange Scheme for the present year, 46281, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 46290, 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Whoever will bring them to Mr. Francis Walsh, Jeweller, in Castle-street, shall have half a guinea for their trouble, and no questions asked. Notice is given to all the publick offices, therefore they are of no use but to the owner.

Source: Hoey's Dublin Mercury - 17th/20th November 1770

Trev.
Post Reply

Return to “Contributors' Notes”