Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Any information is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Hi, year letter A for 1910, lion passant, 2nd standard mark for silver fineness 833/000 with export key; mark to indicate 2/3 duty restitution upon export valid 1853 till 1953. For dutch hallmarks see; https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32028
Typical export product in the"Old Dutch antique style" made by; Fa.(Firm) H. Hooijkaas 1874-2008; Zilverfabriek Schoonhoven. Responsibility mark HH in rectangle. For big works. In use from March 6, 1906 to September 19, 1924. Missing is a image of the assay office mark or Minerva's head, with a regional assay office letter M in its helmet.
See; https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... 003#p71003


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Source; Hooijkaas Schoonhovens zilver in ambacht en serie- 1874-2008, by Titia Hooijkaas- van Leeuwen
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Re: Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Peter, Thank you so much for the fast reply and all the info, very interesting.

I have some questions if you have time.
About the assay office mark or Minerva's head. You wrote "missing is" Does that mean that the mark is there, but I have not located it, or is it missing from the item?
Also, you said this HH mark was for larger items, but this plate is only about six inches across.
I saw a line saying "HH in a rectangle has been used by Hermanus Hartman, Schoonhoven 1889/1910" Any chance this is made by him?

Thanks again Eric
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Re: Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Hi Eric, you expect to find an assay office mark somewhere on the plate. You either can't find it or it is missing. Although size matters 6" in diameter is not small.The standard mark for small silverwork is the sword mark. The style of your plate with the year letter for 1910, export key and the word Holland for me points to Hooijkaas.
Hermanus Hartman, registered 1889-1910, was a maker of small silverwork like spoons and traditional trouser buttons.


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Eric, we like to dig a little deeper in why Hooijkaas could use an identical responsibility mark as used by Hartman, both were registered in Schoonhoven 1906-1910 with a similar mark.
Could you please tell us the weight of the plate?

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Re: Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Peter, thank you again for your reply and expertise, I'm still searching for any additional marks, the weight of the plate is 2 ounces.
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Re: Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Peter, I found Minerva's head, with a regional assay office letter M in its helmet. It is directly the plate across from the "A" and very small. I posted another shot of the whole plate showing the marks' locations. Thanks again Eric

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Well done, Eric. Will inform you when we finished the digging.

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Question; did Hooijkaas and Hermanus Hartman, both use this particular mark HH in rectangle.
The answer is no, only Hermanus Hartman used this particular HH, sans serif mark. See for more information; https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... 08#p212008



The error is probably in the drawing that Waarborg/Assay office and Tita Hooijkaas show for the responsibility mark used by Hooijkaas, period 1906/1924, HH in rectangle. The drawn mark HH is without serifs, however the mark punched on silver objects clearly shows the (two) HH with serifs. See example on cake server, year letter E 1914;

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An internet search of Hooijkaas silver, period 1906-1924 shows his mark, HH with serifs in rectangle. Sometimes a serif is unclear, probably due to a worn, damaged stamp. It therefore seems that the Waarborg/assay office does not correctly represent the mark of Hooijkaas, period 1906-1924, in the drawing of Hooijkaas 's mark the serifs are missing.

Back to your partly ajour/openwork silver plate.
The responsibility mark on your plate;

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HH with serifs, in a rectangle. The 2nd H, of which the legs seem to be connected by serifs. The sign is a bit crooked, making it look like the first H is sans-serif.



Hooijkaas had a photo studio; the articles made by his factory were photographed, he also advertised with it. The photos of the articles were numbered in a 'book'. One or more copies of such a book went to an agent(s) in the US & UK (we have no proof of that, but it makes sense). The agent pre-sold the 'articles' and ordered what he needed using the (handwritten) numbers in the photo book.The word Holland probably later punched by the American importer in the US

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​Indeed ​your plate is depicted there, no. 388
It has been noted that silver items made in Schoonhoven per year with a total weight of hundreds kilo's, sometimes 1500 kilos, went to the US (and UK), in different years around 1900.


Peter.

Photos of Hooijkaas catalog and additional information courtesy of Rene Kappers
Source; WaarborgHolland, ˜Netherlands' Responsibility Marks since 1797
Hooijkaas Schoonhovens zilver in ambacht en serie- 1874-2008, by Titia Hooijkaas- van Leeuwen
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Re: Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Wow, that's so cool!! thanks very much again. If I understood correctly, they made many multiples of this particular plate, it is not a one-of-a-kind item. Eric
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Yes, indeed not one of a kind. Hooijkaas was running a factory, producing silver objects.

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Re: Small Plate marked "HOLLAND"

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Thanks again Peter for your time and expertise, it is great to learn the history behind this plate and the forum has been an excellent resource and educational tool. Thanks to all involved. Eric
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