twice the B.P mark

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twice the B.P mark

Postby Arizona » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:51 pm

So I came across this tea spoon, which I find quite old in style but I have no clue wether is american pre 1860 or not. Judging for the hallmark B.P it seems like it. Any clues on style, age, or maker? it has two marks, both identical.

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Traintime » Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:38 pm

Not a conclusion, but until we get more, just throwing out the possibility of Benjamin Pierpont (WEV might know more on this):
https://library.si.edu/digital-library/ ... meri00fren

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Aguest » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:23 pm

You must rule out provincial Denmark first, I have a suspicion about its form and artistry which leads me in that direction...

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby samtron76df » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:56 am

a pic of the back of the bowl would be very helpful in figuring out where this is from...

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Arizona » Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:26 am

samtron76df wrote:a pic of the back of the bowl would be very helpful in figuring out where this is from...

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Arizona » Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:52 am

Aguest wrote:You must rule out provincial Denmark first, I have a suspicion about its form and artistry which leads me in that direction...


That is an interesting lead, probably you nailed it, but what is it so particular about it?

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Traintime » Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:42 pm

The "pricking" work...discussed in this thread, for one, which often points to the likely origin: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=23848&p=57532&hilit=pricking&sid=bdc0571c795044fa575da4c89f02b698#p57532

Construction of the spoon may be another, which is why the bowl back image was requested. Drop styles give hints along with other things.

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Arizona » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:40 pm

Here is the thing, there is no pricking in this piece, maybe in the picture it does seem like it, probably because the image quality, but the monograms are engraved.

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Aguest » Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:39 am

I have seen so many provincial Denmark spoons over the years, due to my obsession with silver, and the style of the engraving, the form of the spoon, and the place where the shaft meets the bowl, they all just point towards provincial Denmark as an origin...

We should look there first, and there is a comprehensive list of Denmark silver makers, it has always helped me...

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Arizona » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:17 am

I don´t know what says your source but in the internet I didn´t found anything but newer(post 1893) B.P. maker marks in Denmark. I found a older one that might make sense in Iceland, Bjorn Palsson (1854-1946). In any case this thread can be now moved to "Scandinavian silver" by the moderators.

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Hose_dk » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:38 am

everything looks scandinavian - BP is not in registre of Denmark, but only half of the Danish mark are listed. Rest unknown so.
However something regarding pattern say Norway to me (i have not checked the norweigian registre) but from what I see, I would say Norway. late 1800dreds.

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Qrt.S » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:43 am

I have a rather good register regarding Norway. Unfortunately didn't find anything matching this mark. Finland and Sweden are out of question. Their marking system deviates completely to both Norway and Denmark.

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Re: twice the B.P mark

Postby Hose_dk » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:33 pm

i have similar pattern bought in Norway - so i would say there.
The danish Empire differs a bit from this.
Northern Germany is also a possibility.
But pattern is a variation of the pattern empire.


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