Help read the marks (the women’s head wearing a kokoshnik and 84)

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Elena Russ
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Help read the marks (the women’s head wearing a kokoshnik and 84)

Postby Elena Russ » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:23 am

Hello!
I have a rather interesting example - a vodka cup made in russian style and with marks similar to Russian (height about 7 cm), but this is not state hallmarks of Russia. Maybe, it's Harbin?
Thank you in advance.

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Re: Help read the marks (the women’s head wearing a kokoshnik and 84)

Postby Qrt.S » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:05 am

In my eyes it looks like fake marks, simulating Russian marks. There is no sense in the marking, at least not regarding Russian standards.

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Re: Help read the marks (the women’s head wearing a kokoshnik and 84)

Postby AG2012 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:59 am

Hi,
There was secondary (auxiliar) kokoshnik mark (both circular and less common vertical oval) in composite objects,but never as solitary mark without assayar`s initials.
Besides,left facing was used for a very short time.That makes this set of marks suspicious, as always when we see something for the first time.
On the other hand,the object and the engraving look genuine.
In a word, I am not to judge easily the authenticity in this particular case.Because I haven't seen everything.
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Elena Russ
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Re: Help read the marks (the women’s head wearing a kokoshnik and 84)

Postby Elena Russ » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:24 am

Hi!

Thank! I agree, here is an imitation of Russian marks, but the vodka cup is Russian exactly))) And I assume, it was made in immigration…

Sincerely, Elena.


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