Another early spoon?

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Another early spoon?

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Here's another spoon that comes from the same collection as the Groningen 1669 one that I posted last week.

I'd be grateful for any suggestions as to age and origin. The hallmarks may be more difficult to interpret than with the Groningen one. My sense is that it is not a later reproduction/fantasy, although I could very well be wrong.

Thank you in advance for your help. I'm learning a lot.

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Hi, this time I believe it to be pseudo marks, and likely not Dutch.

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Too bad! But thank you.

Do you think Hanau or similar?
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Yes, Hanau style.
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Hi,

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Hi Trev, the images are showing at my Android smart phone and not at my windows laptop. Laptop, if I click on the not showing image it reveals its content.

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Your spoon is Swiss and I don't think the marks are pseudo. Most likely 17th century or early 18th. There are more knowledgeable people on here regarding swiss marks but it is definitely Swiss
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Yes, perhaps L in a square for Lichtensteig
http://hallmarkwiki.com/?country=Switze ... chtensteig

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Well, this is better news! Thank you. Can you recommend a published source that I should consult?
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Also, Legrandmogol, does the style tell you that it is Swiss? Have you seen 17th c Swiss spoons of similar form?
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It is the style. I have seen this type of spoon is several of my books and described as Swiss and Liechtenstein being so close is a good bet. "Wetliches Silber" is a good reference for swiss pieces but I have also seen it described as Swiss in several other books such as "Cutlery - From Gothic to Art Deco: The J. Holander Collection" and "Historic Cutlery: Changes in Form from the Early Stone Age to the Mid-20th Century" both of which I recommend more than the first book as they concentrate on pieces from all over Europe. There is one other book I have but I cannot remember the name and I am work right now but when I get home Ill let you know what is called
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There is a contributor named Blakstone who is very knowledgeable regarding all things Swiss and would definitely be a big help with this. While I believe the piece is authentic, I would take their word as final on the matter if they ever see this post.
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Legrandmogol, I wonder if you ever found the title of that other book you mentioned. Blakstone, I wonder if you've had a chance to see this thread. My further research hasn't gotten me too far yet. Thanks!
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Sorry, I've been a bit busy. The other book is "Eight Centuries of European Knives, Forks and Spoons" by Klaus Marquardt.
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