mystery inscription

What was this used for? - PHOTO REQUIRED
david8
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:54 am

mystery inscription

Postby david8 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:48 am

can anyone help with the names and who they are inscribed on this porringer please, the inscription was done by arthur pitt


Image

Image

juantotree
contributor
Posts: 279
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:17 pm

Re: mystery inscription

Postby juantotree » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:53 am

Probably a christening gift to a person with a lot of names.

Martin

david8
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:54 am

Re: mystery inscription

Postby david8 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:05 am

the first name i am not so sure but i have researched the second name it is Lewis Vernon Harcourt secretary of state for the colonies

dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 40644
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: mystery inscription

Postby dognose » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:39 pm

Hi,

Just to get the ball rolling:

Hartman, hon. mrs. — hon. Dorothy, 2 dau. of 1 and last baron Bayford, P.C., T.D. (d. 1940); b. 27 Aug. 1907: m. 1932, Henry Felix Lister Hartman (d. 1963 ); 1 s., 1 dau.: Almeley Manor, Hereford (Eardisley 239).

Source: Kelly's Handbook to the Titled, Landed and Official Classes, Volume 95 - 1969


Henry Felix Lister Hartmann was born 29th May 1901

Source: The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal - 1994

Trev.

david8
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:54 am

Re: mystery inscription

Postby david8 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:04 pm

thanks Trev, Henry Felix Lister Hartmann : his “Lister” name is the maiden name of Lewis Vernon Harcourt’s mother, and the engraving says “godfather.” This is could be a christening vessel - to pour a couple drops of holy water on the baby’s head

dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 40644
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: mystery inscription

Postby dognose » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:19 pm

To me, it looks, somewhat oddly, more like a wine taster.

Are there any marks on it?

Trev.

dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 40644
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: mystery inscription

Postby dognose » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:24 pm

Another snippet of information:

Constance Mary Lister, m. 20 Ap. 1892, James Frederick Maximilian Hartmann ; and has issue le to 3c. le. James Frederick Lister Hartmann, b. 25 Feb. 1893. 2e. Robert Alexander Lister Hartmann, b. 5 Jan. 1896. 3e. Henry Felix Lister Hartmann, b. 29 May 1901.

Source: The Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal - 1994

Trev.

david8
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:54 am

Re: mystery inscription

Postby david8 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:27 pm

yes it was made by william comyns in 1898 and has arthur pitson of london inscribed on base too

david8
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:54 am

Re: mystery inscription

Postby david8 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:31 pm

also it is 6.5inches wide with handle and 182 grams in weight

dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 40644
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: mystery inscription

Postby dognose » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:38 pm

Arthur Pitson was an upmarket jeweller (179, New Bond Street). He was in business up until around 1923.

Trev.

DianaGaleM
contributor
Posts: 231
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:32 pm
Location: Florida

Re: mystery inscription

Postby DianaGaleM » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:51 pm

It looks to me like a "porringer." They were often given as Christening gifts.

kerangoumar2
Posts: 10
Joined: Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:18 pm

Re: mystery inscription

Postby kerangoumar2 » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:17 pm

and to me it looks like a waste of space as there are NO images. trevor - i believe any posts that do not contain or that drop the images should be banished to a dark corner of the site. considering that this forum is meant to educate and expand our knowledge, it seems rude for people to ignore the basic requirements, ie photos. if one posts here asking for help it's the least that can be done.

dognose
Site Admin
Posts: 40644
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:53 pm
Location: England

Re: mystery inscription

Postby dognose » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:26 pm

Hi kerangoumar2,

For me, the images are showing.

Trev.

Waylander
co-admin
Posts: 391
Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Australia

Re: mystery inscription

Postby Waylander » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:54 am

Ditto - no issues with the images for me.

Cheers

Waylander

Traintime
contributor
Posts: 1716
Joined: Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:44 pm

Re: mystery inscription

Postby Traintime » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:50 am

Six inches of snow and still recieving images on Pacific slope. I find missing images are most likely temporary carrier issues. Sometimes backing out and getting closer to the signal for the re-upload will clear it up. [We have had past permanent losses related to hosting site changes that are beyond anyone's control. Those images only get restored with an awful lot of work that may require new photos. Many old entries can only be enhanced by those willing to contribute new samples that match the original descriptions. Hint, hint everybody.]

MiloRichards
Posts: 7
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2017 9:19 pm

Re: mystery inscription

Postby MiloRichards » Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:16 am

Heck that made me jump! That’s my dads name. Almost completely certain there’s no connection though


Return to “Mystery Objects”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests