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Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:20 am
by meyrink
Hello.

Could you please help me with these marks? Moon and star looks like Georg Adam Scheid, but I did not find this square form.

Thank you

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Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:42 am
by Qrt.S
Yugoslavia before 1933, fineness .900...

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:50 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Kingdom of Yugoslavia.
Regards

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Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:52 am
by Qrt.S
Yugoslavia confirmed 1922-1933, fineness .900. Unfortunately I have no information regarding the maker's mark IB. Maybe someone else have?

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:03 am
by meyrink
Thank you so much, you are all great! Interesting information for me.

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:45 am
by Qrt.S
My pleasure, but mind my asking; where is the enamel you mention in the headline?

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:19 pm
by meyrink
The blue champleve enamel is on the edge, you can see it on the first photo

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:03 pm
by AG2012
There is a small number top right in the mark (above Roman I).
It indicates assay office. Can you identify it undder higher magnification and tell us ?

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:18 pm
by meyrink
Assay office number is 3 :)

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:03 pm
by AG2012
Assay office 3 was Laibach (Ljubljana in Slovenia).
I think the silvermith is Ivan Beuc who moved from Vienna in 1924.
While working in Austria his first name was Johann.
After the dissolution of Austria-Hungary Slovenia became part of Yugoslavia,and Beuc is typical Slovenian name.
He probably moved with the entire inventory of his Vienna workshop.The cigarette case really looks like Vienna Art Deco.
Regards

Re: Enamel cigarette case

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:02 pm
by meyrink
Wow, such detail information I did not expected. The cigarette case really looks like a Vienesse piece. Do you have any clue about the next Hagia Sofia case? Thank you