Help identifying Hallmark on t motorcycle HARLEY

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length 13 cm. weight 193 g.
I am interested in product labeling. perhaps it was made in America. some say italy ..
help determine whether it is silver or silver plated.
wheels are gilded.
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Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

It's Spanish. See: https://www.925-1000.com/foreign_marks6.html

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thank
this is not spain. the Spaniards have a pentagram and here is a six-pointed star. star of David
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It very well could be from Israel and that hallmark with the number is one of the "Mem" silver hallmarks which has the letter "Mem" and a number. ::::
I believe I see the letter "Mem" and another Hebrew letter next to it (not sure what that letter is) and there is a number underneath it (either 52 or 62 not sure which). :::::

The star does seem to have 6-points and not the 5=points (Spain silver hallmark pentagram) to my eyes at least which are of average power. ::::
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I do not understand this silver or silver plating.
I want to buy this item but I'm not sure if it is silver.
I don’t know what price to offer.
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it is not clear here. is it a marking?
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It is not clear to me.
Check out:
Medusa-Oro or Google search; MEDUSA ORO HARLEY DAVIDSON
A MEDUSA-ORO SILVER MOTORCYCLE . Medusa-Oro, Italy, circa 1970. Marks: MEDUSA-ORO, (star) 175-AR, 925. 8-1/2 inches ...


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Medusa-Oro, Italy silver 925.
and this motorcycle has an unknown mark.
silver or silver plated
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No known silver (hall) marks nor 925. Perhaps made out of non precious metal which should reflect in the price.To be sure have it tested for silver.


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it is impossible to verify.
this harley is being auctioned in spain.

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Does the Spanish auction house describes it made out of white metal or made out of silver?

The marks on the miniature Harley at first glance, the six pointed star in a circle, might try to "suggest" to be the Spanish hallmark for silver ( 5 pointed star) in a circular frame. Perhaps the marks are pseudo marks?
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Without a doubt it is Spanish.
The star corresponds to the quality of silver of 916 thousandths (therefore it is not silver but sterling silver).

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The other trademark corresponds to the city of Salamanca - Spain (SA) and the registration number of the establishment, according to the Precious Metals Law of 1934.
Unfortunately, I do not have record 62 referenced.

Another example:

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In this case, the brand is from Barcelona and trade No. 9 is registered as Cut Stone, S.A.

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Sin ninguna duda es español.
La estrella corresponde a la calidad de la plata de 916 milésimas (luego no es plateado sino de plata de ley).
La otra marca corresponde a la ciudad de Salamanca - España (SA) y al número de registro del establecimiento, según Ley de metales preciosos de 1934. Desgraciadamente el registro 62 no lo tengo referenciado.
Otro ejemplo:
En este caso la marca es de Barcelona y el comercio Nº 9 es el registrado como Cut Stone, S.A.
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many thanks for the help
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If that`s Spanish control mark, how to explain the difference between the pentagram and the star of David ?
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If that's Spanish control mark, how to explain the difference between the pentagram and the star of David ?
Poor images/slightly mis-struck mark?

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Prouerbes in the English Tongue, 1546:
“A man may well bryng a horse to the water, but he can not make hym drynke without he will.”
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AG2012 wrote:If that`s Spanish control mark, how to explain the difference between the pentagram and the star of David ?
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It is simply a 5-pointed star and it has nothing to do with the Star of David, only that it looks a lot like it.
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Thanks Funkel, agree the Spanish pentagram and a bit failed which gives it an odd "hexagram" in appearance.

Peter.

Gràcies Funkel, accepteu el pentagrama espanyol i heu fallat una mica, cosa que li dóna un aspecte "hexagrama" estrany.
moltes gràcies, que tingueu un bon dia

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A pentagram has 5 points while Star of David has 6 points. A minor difference of 1 point
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Qr.S most of us know the difference between a pentagram and hexagram.

For comparison:
On the Harley Davidson.
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Spanish pentagram;
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Harley Davidson, clearly a pentagram, have a drink, Cheers.


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