ST. ELOY
ST. ELOY
Script V, ST. ELOY, Crown, Fox head, Anchor 830
Saint Eloy patron saint of the Goldsmiths and others.
Some auction sites and sellers claim the silver objects to be of Dutch origin, although some have a Dutch duty mark the Dutch script-letter V; duty mark for imported gold and silver objects, the V for the Dutch word ˜vreemd" which translate to foreign. The mark gives no guarantee of standard of fineness. It was intended for imported objects only. It was however sometimes by mistake used on old objects of national origin.Used 1906-1953
The marks seen on hand (hammered) made objects are those retailer and or maker's, pseudo or perhaps American marks or....?
Peter.
Re: ST. ELOY
Identical tray, an early 20th century (circa 1915) silver serving tray made by Pochon Frères & Co.
Marks; marks of maker Pochon Frères & Co city of Bern Switserland.
Marks of Pochon Frères & Co and ST.ELOY (Dutch) retailers mark and script V Dutch duty mark for foreign/imported items
The unknown marks on the other tray, without the bear but lion instead which I believe to be for Pochon Frères & Co or ?
See;
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Retailer's mark ST.ELOY seen on: Dutch silver Art Deco tea set maker's mark B under 2 stars for; C.L.J Begeer, Utrecht mark used 1904/1951, Kon. Utrechtse Fabriek van Zilverwerk C.J. Begeer, Retailers mark: ST ELOY, unknown mark probably designer's mark. Year letter T for 1929
Peter.
Re: ST. ELOY
Thank you for sharing these interesting observations.
It seems with 830 fineness, the piece is more likely to come from elsewhere in Europe as opposed to America?oel wrote: The marks seen on hand (hammered) made objects are those retailer and or maker's, pseudo or perhaps American marks or....?
Re: ST. ELOY
Europe indeed Germany and Switzerland.
Perhaps we have found a possible candidate for the retailers mark ST. ELOY
The House of ST. ELOY Rotterdam.
Albertus Eduard Maria van der Loo (1878-1960), in 1901 founder and director of N.V. Het Huis van St. Eloy, jewelry traders registered in Rotterdam. He and his son and successor Joost Albertus van der Loo(1907-1985) learned the jewelry trade in Germany and Switzerland.
The House of St. Eloy in the beginning till the mid seventies was a very exclusive establishment, exclusively for people of the highest welfare class. In addition to jewelry, The House of ST. ELOY also traded in exclusive high-quality silver.
In 1924 the jewelry trading house registered an importer’s mark for silver & gold objects: A vd (conjoined) L3 + for A. van der Loo, Rotterdam, registered 1924-1953. In 1953- present importer's mark; StE+ registered for; Het Huis van Sint Eloy and 1990-present maker’s mark; *StE*
In view of the jewelry study of the van der Loo family in Germany and Switzerland, they could have built up a trading relationship with the firm Pochon Frères & Co.
Perhaps in their early year The House of St. Eloy, as retailer marked imported (big) silver items with ST.ELOY ? NB. Fineness 830S is below legal minimum Dutch standard mark silver 833 fineness used 1814-1953.
Lot number 26, Views: 3
A five-part combined silver tea/coffee set The set German, maker's mark Het Huis van St. Eloy b.v., Rotterdam, serving tray Haarlem, 1948, A. Presburg Comprising a coffee pot, a teapot, a creamer, a sugar bowl and a serving tray. First and second grade silver, approx. gross weight 2373 grams H. 21 / 15.5 / 10 / 4.5 / L. 47.5 cm Provenance: - Auction Christie's Amsterdam, 6 December 1983, lot 609 - Private collection, The Netherlands (5x)
Will try to contact The house of ST. ELOY and ask if it is correct.
Peter.
Perhaps we have found a possible candidate for the retailers mark ST. ELOY
The House of ST. ELOY Rotterdam.
Albertus Eduard Maria van der Loo (1878-1960), in 1901 founder and director of N.V. Het Huis van St. Eloy, jewelry traders registered in Rotterdam. He and his son and successor Joost Albertus van der Loo(1907-1985) learned the jewelry trade in Germany and Switzerland.
The House of St. Eloy in the beginning till the mid seventies was a very exclusive establishment, exclusively for people of the highest welfare class. In addition to jewelry, The House of ST. ELOY also traded in exclusive high-quality silver.
In 1924 the jewelry trading house registered an importer’s mark for silver & gold objects: A vd (conjoined) L3 + for A. van der Loo, Rotterdam, registered 1924-1953. In 1953- present importer's mark; StE+ registered for; Het Huis van Sint Eloy and 1990-present maker’s mark; *StE*
In view of the jewelry study of the van der Loo family in Germany and Switzerland, they could have built up a trading relationship with the firm Pochon Frères & Co.
Perhaps in their early year The House of St. Eloy, as retailer marked imported (big) silver items with ST.ELOY ? NB. Fineness 830S is below legal minimum Dutch standard mark silver 833 fineness used 1814-1953.
Lot number 26, Views: 3
A five-part combined silver tea/coffee set The set German, maker's mark Het Huis van St. Eloy b.v., Rotterdam, serving tray Haarlem, 1948, A. Presburg Comprising a coffee pot, a teapot, a creamer, a sugar bowl and a serving tray. First and second grade silver, approx. gross weight 2373 grams H. 21 / 15.5 / 10 / 4.5 / L. 47.5 cm Provenance: - Auction Christie's Amsterdam, 6 December 1983, lot 609 - Private collection, The Netherlands (5x)
Will try to contact The house of ST. ELOY and ask if it is correct.
Peter.