Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Any hint would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Based on the owners' initials it could be Scandinavian. The initials/names seem to include patronymics which were typical in Scandinavia. For example it could be something like Valdemar PettersSon Lund and Maria DanielsDotter in Swedish.
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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Yes it could be Scandinavian. After an intensive search I have found one possible master punching GN. He is Gjert Jørgensen Niemand in Skien in Norway, born in December 1632, master 1660 and dead in January 1679. Is it a match or not, I don't know. Anybody has a better solution?
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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Hi,
Very unusual form for a 17th century spoon (the neck).
Is the bowl soldered to the handle ?
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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Sasropakis wrote:Based on the owners' initials it could be Scandinavian. The initials/names seem to include patronymics which were typical in Scandinavia. For example it could be something like Valdemar PettersSon Lund and Maria DanielsDotter in Swedish.
Thank you very much! I assumed the spoon to be christening gift and was surprised at the many first names. So the letters are the names of the couple, very interesting!
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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Qrt.S wrote:Yes it could be Scandinavian. After an intensive search I have found one possible master punching GN. He is Gjert Jørgensen Niemand in Skien in Norway, born in December 1632, master 1660 and dead in January 1679. Is it a match or not, I don't know. Anybody has a better solution?
I am thrilled and astonished. I knew this forum is fantastic, but I did not think it was possible to find (even a possible) "GN". Here in Austria the documentation about silversmiths before 1780 is very incomplete. Now this spoon is way older and does not even bear a town mark. I am very impressed! Thank you for searching!
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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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AG2012 wrote:Hi, Very unusual form for a 17th century spoon (the neck). Is the bowl soldered to the handle ? Regards
It does not look soldered, but "hammered and filed". I am no expert in manufacturing techniques, maybe this image helps.

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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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This one might be better:
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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Another spoon (near in style) sold at auction Sep. 2017 described:
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A Norwegian 17th century silver spoon, mark of Oluf Jorgensen (Bergen 1650-1700).
Engraved and dated 1673.


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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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@AG2012

No, the form/style is not unusual for Norway's 17th century. Here another rather similar spoon. Pay attention to the form and the location of the mark. The same place as on orthogonal's spoon (red arrow). Both the style and the mark's location made me suspect a Norwegian master. I believe we "got" the master.

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Re: Spoon, "GN", 1664

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Thank you very much!
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