Punch Ladle

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Goggles
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Punch Ladle

Postby Goggles » Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:23 pm

I would appreciate help in identifying this punch ladle.

The coin set into the bowl is dated and I think it is 1710, but I'm not confident. That of course doesn't provide a date for the ladle as an older coin probably would have been used.

The script round the coin is as follows,
Tails side: MAG BRIFR ETHIB REG 1710(?)
Heads side: ANNA DEI GRATIA

I suspect the coin might be Austrian, but I can't find an Austrian Empress Anna. Can someone help identify the coin?

The marks on the shaft are shown in the accompanying photos,

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I+M (a marriage gift?)
And a punch mark IO

I would appreciate help with identification of the coin and an explanation of the punched marks, and estimated date for the ladle.

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AG2012
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Re: Punch Ladle

Postby AG2012 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:36 pm

Hi,
It`s British (Queen Anne).
Regards.

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Re: Punch Ladle

Postby juantotree » Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:19 am

Hi

The coin is a shilling, this type of ladle was popular throughout the 18th century, at a guess anywhere from the date of the coin to around 1750.

Martin

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Re: Punch Ladle

Postby Goggles » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:52 am

All is now clear. Queen Anne escaped my attention as there is no set of English hallmarks.
Thank you.
Is the IO punch mark, which I assume is the maker's mark, attributable?
And if it is the maker's mark, then how would the maker having put his mark on it, expect to get away with not paying duty?

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Re: Punch Ladle

Postby AG2012 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:19 am

Destroying silver coins was illegal in UK.
Its value was linked to gold and over time its bullion value exceeded nominal value = the fact observed overseas. Nevertheless, nominal value remained in UK (being linked to gold).
In short, the laddle might have been made elsewhere within vast British empire.

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Re: Punch Ladle

Postby Hose_dk » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:13 pm

its made of 2 shillings.
The bown is also a coin. You hammer the coin in shape. The hammer must not totch the rim of the coin.


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