need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

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wsharek
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need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby wsharek » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:42 pm

I would like to identify the mark on a dresser jewelry holder.

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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby AG2012 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:35 pm

Hi,
It was made in Milan, Italy, silver fineness 800/1000

Will try to recognize maker`s mark.
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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby AG2012 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:47 pm

Btw. based on the form I`d say it`s candle snuffer tray , but haven`t seen many pierced pieces.
Depends on the size, but really looks like that.

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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby wsharek » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:53 pm

Please help me understand the hallmarks..... How do you know where it was made and the silver content? And how can I calculate the date that it was made? By the way, thank you very much for your help.

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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby AG2012 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:20 am

Hi,
Take a look here, you will recognize your marks and when they were used (19th century).
http://www.silvercollection.it/LOMBARDO ... MARKS.html
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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby wsharek » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:17 am

Thank you. You have been very helpful. Can you identify the silversmith from the 3rd mark?

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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby AG2012 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:37 am

Hi,
Had one in mind with the deer in mark but it was not correct.
Let`s wait.
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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby Dendriet » Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:53 pm

Mark for big articles: Heptagon containing the World (or the globe) surrounded by the seven stars (or trioni, from ancient Latin: triones) of the Great Bear constellation (silver fineness.800) silver hallmark
Italy 1810-1872

Plough silver hallmark
Italy, Milan 1812-1871

The maker's mark we have our specialized people who are in possession of the right books.
Needs some time but then you have the correct data


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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby amena » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:12 am

It's Tomaso Panizza

Says the book of Sambonet (translated with the help of Google)
1837 Tomaso Panizza notify the sign of " suckling goat" depicting the symbol in a circle with the initials TP. The shop is in the district of Goldsmiths 3199, in the building where he lives. The silverware of the Panizza are among the finest produced in Milan in the mid-nineteenth century. Skilled engraver and refined model maker, has a sense of proportion and taste of the decor. ........... From his workshop, in the period 1837-1868, came out religious object, coffee pots, sugar bowls, cruets, sauce boats, candlesticks, utensils and small table accessories. Even large and beautiful cutlery.
He died in 1868 and the shop in the name of " suckling goat" goes out of business.

The object could be a small tray for liturgical ampoules
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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby amena » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:18 am


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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby Dendriet » Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:05 am

Sorry,

Where am I ??

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Re: need help to ID Russian or Austrian mark

Postby wsharek » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:57 am

This forum is wonderful. Thank you very much


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