Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

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byronbay55
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Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Postby byronbay55 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:49 am

Hi!

Can anyone help with these hallmarks? There are two on the base (the heart and the one next to it) and two on the lids rim.


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Best,
Thomas

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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Postby WarrenKundis » Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:59 pm

Good day Thomas,

Some challenge marks to be sure. In the first set is that IH then to the right the numerial 3 with sometime above and below it?

Now on the second set take a piece of textured material like the green shawl in the last image then slide it up behind the lip then reshoot. The weave may give the camera lense something to focus on. Then keep shooting until you get the clearest possible image somone can identify.

Good Luck
Warren

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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Postby byronbay55 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:05 pm

Thx, Warren! I'll try to post some better photos tomorrow. Midsummer Eve here in Sweden, so I need to leave the computer for some maypole dancing :)

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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Postby huszas76 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:25 pm

Hello!
The second sets of marks are tax marks from Austria/Hungary.
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=35107
The first mark (IH) is the maker's mark.
I think, the 2. mark is upside down. Maybe 2 crossed sword. I guess, it's german, one of the cities with similar guild marks. (Dresden, Weissenfells) Maybe some of the german contributors can help,
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Postby byronbay55 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:02 pm

Wow. thank you Krisztián!

Any thoughts about how old it is? Mid to late 1800s?

Best,
Thomas

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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Postby huszas76 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:23 pm

Hello Thomas!
It's a really nice box, I like it!
I think, it's rather from the end of the 18. century.
But if you checked the tax marks in my preview link, you saw, that this used in 1806-7 and 1809-10.
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: Provincial, or Faux Hallmarks?

Postby neurorocker » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:33 pm

I agree. German 3rd quarter 18th century. This oval shape is apparently typical of things used to keep tea in Germany at that time. I have a bronze one in my shop that's not nearly as beautiful. Mine has inner compartments. Does this one?

Nate


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