Help identify these hallmarks

[Villamarea]

According to Bonham's the attached 4 silver candlesticks were made in a French province during the first quarter of the 19th century. I do not have any reason to doubt them but do not find the hallmarks in my resource material and thus solicit your expertise. Thanks for sharing.

[dognose]

Hi Villamarea,

On mark No.3, is the letter above the '8' an 'E' or a 'N'?

Trev.

[Francais]

Not French, I can't make out the first one, the maker's mark. 2 and 3 are Sicilian marks for .833 silver used between 1829 and 1873.
Maurice

[dognose]

Yes, but the key will be contained by whether it is an 'E' or 'N' in the mark ('nostrali' - home produced, or 'estero' - imported).

Trev.

[Francais]

I wasn't quite sure what you were asking, I think that only applies to the right facing marks. I think in this series it is either a number or an E. But I may be wrong, I have had very little Italian silver.
Maurice

[Villamarea]

It is definitely an 8 to the right of the head profile facing left. I appreciate your help. Thanks.

[Villamarea]

Trev, now I completely follow you as to the E and the N above the 8 and I just looked at each of the four candlesticks and each of the four bobeches and that is a hard one to read - I really appreciate the input and I just need to be able to read that area. Thanks, Steve

[dognose]

Hi Steve,

Maurice's thoughts have made realise that I was thinking about another mark from the same region.

This would, I believe, would be a similar version of your mark:



It was used in the Kingdom of the two Sicilies after 1826. The '8', as Maurice has stated, indicates a silver standard of 833/1000.

We need someone well versed in Italian marks to comment further.

Trev.

[amena]

Pictures are taken from an oblique direction .
Is it possible to get sharp photos from a perpendicular direction ?