Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

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cruceanumihai
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Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby cruceanumihai » Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:40 am

Hi all!

I am new to this forum and I am hoping to get some help from you. I have a silver platter or fruit bowl, around 1900, and I couldn't find anyone to identify the hallmark. I think it's German but I am not positive on that.
Any help would be highly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby dognose » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:58 am

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

I think the likelihood is that your bowl is Italian, pre 1934, but I have been unable to find a match for that column mark so far.

See: http://www.925-1000.com/Fitalian_marks_01.html

See also viewtopic.php?f=38&t=27003 in case the device appears there.

Trev.

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby amena » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:40 am

I agree with Trevis, I have already seen this mark, but I do not know who is that silversmith.
The mark reminds the column at Cape Colonna (Taranto)
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Not that this is a big help.
Regards
Amena

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby WarrenKundis » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:47 am

Good Day all,

If you look down below the 800 mark under the column, about seven o'clock, there is a very small what appears to be a 1934-44 Italian Provence and assigned makers numbers in the correct shaped cartouche.

See what you think.
Warren

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby WarrenKundis » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:05 am

Missed something else, above the top of the column at 11 o'clock there appears to the the numbers 847 then a smaller number 5 in the palm of an out stretched hand.

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby dognose » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:10 am

Well done Hawkeye Warren! Good spot.

Cruceanumihai, can you make out any detail from within that mark?

Trev.

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby dognose » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:13 am

Posts crossed. It looks, to me, just the top of a Doric column.

Trev.

cruceanumihai
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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby cruceanumihai » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:32 pm

Thank you for your oppinions. I cannot see any details on the bowl, other than what can be seen in the picture. But yet again, I am not an expert in this matter. However, I feel like I am closer to identifying the hallmark, thanks to your help.

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby cruceanumihai » Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:08 pm

Hi all,

If you have any more ideas, please share them.:)
Thank you!

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby westportauction » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:45 pm

I just found the same bowl and wish i could identify...

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby westportauction » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:52 pm

here are pics of mine:

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Travis

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Re: Silver fruit bowl, possibly German, unidentified mark

Postby WarrenKundis » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:11 pm

Travis,

Looking at your first image there appears to be two other marks about one inch directly below your column and 800 marks. In your second image it appears to be at the bottom of your flash reflection point. Can you try shooting in daylight without the flash while using your macro setting on your camera.

To get an idea of what your looking for review the Italian marks Trev posted above. Believe it's the 1934-1944 national mark as you can see from the other bowl above.

Warren


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