Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

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neurorocker
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Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

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This is an unusual spoon that I believe is German. It seems to have a 12 L (loth) mark, city mark of running stag, and a maker mark. Can anyone provide additional details?
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Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

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I just realized perhaps what I thought was a stag is the stallion from the Stuttgart city mark. I can't be sure.
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this is a typical Romania spoon.

but I do not know the town. there is a town with a stag in city ​​coat of arms
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looking this link
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 24&t=34117
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Many thanks. I have not come across this type of silver before. Perhaps the moderators will move to the appropriate forum.
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Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

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The city you referred to is Bacău, Romania that has the stag in the coat-of-arms. If anyone recognizes the silversmith CJ, it would be useful to have that information here. I suspect this spoon is about 1830. Do others agree? Thanks again.
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Hello!
We have some earlier examples for this type of spoons, but no one could identified makers from Romania yet in the site. So we just supposing, that this are from Romania.
I'm afraid, temporarily you wont't get any more usable answer.
Best Regards!
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Hello Everyone!
Well, here is another evidence, this type of spoons are from Romania:
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This mark with the fishes is from Romania for the 750 fineness between 1906-1926.
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Unfortunatly (and certainly) I didn't know this master, Radivon.
If anyone have any source for the roumanian makers or the silversmiths of Romania, please share with us!
Best regards!
Krisztián
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Post by neurorocker »

I love the 'dolphin' hallmark. Pretty great piece!

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Post by martako »

I found some information on "Radivon". Here it is:

One other brand they (WMF-Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik) acquired was Radivon Bucarest, a company founded by medalist Theodor Radivon, producing identical art nouveau metal wares under the WMF name with the same model numbers.
huszas76 wrote:Hello Everyone!
Well, here is another evidence, this type of spoons are from Romania:
Image
This mark with the fishes is from Romania for the 750 fineness between 1906-1926.
Image
Unfortunatly (and certainly) I didn't know this master, Radivon.
If anyone have any source for the roumanian makers or the silversmiths of Romania, please share with us!
Best regards!
Krisztián
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Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Post by Bahner »

Hello, the fact that the name of Radivon can be found on WMF objects should not be overestimated. In no way does it imply that Radivon was the actual maker. The WMF gave much of their stuff to foreign salers as in most countries the WMF did not bother to set up its own factories or its own distribution channels. They allowed selected dealers to sell their goods exclusively in that respective country and add the name of the seller to it. Regards, Bahner
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