Postby Martine » Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:12 pm
Dear Sand.....
The marks on the silver box although quite worn off, With a letter P, (Poinçon de Jurande- House of Silversmiths) this letter P and variations, was used for the city of Paris in France at the end of the 18th century. starting in 1784 (Réforme de Bernier ); There should be a 84 or 85 or 86...... till 89 beneath the crown . It is what is called le poinçon de Jurande
One of the 4 marks you have to find in the box.
And how do we recognize that it's a Parisian maker , silversmith of the 18th century ?
Well, because there is a mark with a set of different letters (2 or 3) , sometimes with a symbol, the whole crowned , and under the crown on each side of the upper letter 2 points , like small spheres, called ' grains' in french. for the 'tolerance' of the silverstandard.
(Silver Standard in Paris: 11 deniers 12 grains ( au 2 grains de remède) which is +/- 954/000...
Set of French marks in the 18th c, You should also find a Poinçon de Charge , which is a letter A for Paris till 1789. and a Poinçon de décharge . ( Those are Duty marks)
Those two are quite worn out here. Or the pictures don't allow to read them correctly)
The ornamentation and style of the box, which could be a tobacco box, is typical of the Louis XVI period in Paris and France.
This ornamentation is called a 'cartouche avec des attributs de Musique'. ( Music instruments) You can also find ather attributs.(War, etc) .
This is really typical of the Petit Trianon , Versailles etc...at the time of Louis XVI and his Wife the queen Marie Antoinette.
If you want to know more about French marks, buy the book called: Guide de l'Amateur d' orfèvrerie Française- Louis Carré.
Written in french of course...
Hope this will give you the pleasure to know that your box is really a special object and worth keeping in a nice 'vitrine' .
Silvery Yours
Martine