Thistle cup, nicely marked...Help!

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judhael
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Thistle cup, nicely marked...Help!

Postby judhael » Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:45 pm

Hello again,
Well here is a silver thistle cup that I believe to be Spanish Colonial based on the engraved initials "PC" and the band at the top...it just has that feel. The marks are an "R" with a pellet above and a very nicely detailed tree. There is a 2nd look at the tree on the right.
I need help with origin and with these marks.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Judhael
http://users.tm.net/jewell10/thistlecup2.JPG

byron mac donald
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Postby byron mac donald » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:01 am

Hi Judhael-

Your cup looks very old, are you sure that it is silver? For some reason it feels like pewter to me. Not that I care, I believe art is art and smithing is smithing no matter what income level the artist was working in.

Hose_dk
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Postby Hose_dk » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:53 am

Dont know for sure but the R with the dot.
Swedish for Johan Rudman1689-1727 widow continueduntill 1734. Gävle in sweden.
But the tree ??

well it is a wild guess.

judhael
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Getting there

Postby judhael » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:06 am

Hey Byron Mac Donald & Hose DK!
Thanks for the notes guys. The cup is definitely silver, I have polished it a time or two in the 15 or so years that I have owned it. I have browsed every hallmarks book I could get my hands on and have not gotten close. I'm pretty sure it's late 17th to early 18th century and it does have a repaired crack on the side opposite the monogram, battered and beaten from years of toasting the hostess...
Judhael


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