Old Swedish or Hanau Dish?

[jackk]

Hi, I recently purchased an interesting dish. At first sight I thought of Hanau work, but than closer examination revealed Swedish national mark and I got a little bit confused. Also, the dish has an engraved writing with a date "1702". Anyone with more information as to "CLMW" mark?
Thanks,
Jacek

[Hose_dk]

That is Hanau and marks are
S + katfott (cats paw) for silver. Katfot in oval for import. That mark is new. Dont realy remember date it was introduced but I can find out.

The other marks are danish
CLMW is guardein. CL for Conrad Ludolph see http://www.925-1000.com/dm_Assay.html
MW because he was also Müntz Wardein - müntz as in coin.
Month mark for vandmanden (aquarius) january 21st to february 18th.

Now 3 and 4 mark. If it was original we should have makers mark. Instead we have a variant of guardein. But he was not silversmith.
And we should have the 3 towers.

The 2 last marks also contain MW they are turned upside down. But we have no maker MW or WM for that matter.

CLMN was active 1679 to 1729 - so 1702 is Ok, but we would NEVER be missing the 3 towers.

Therefor i say Hanau.

[Hose_dk]

and for the engraving
Palle Esben Rosenblad we do have danish names. And I have found thar Rosenblad is a family name in Denmark.
But town Fjenneslev is the correct form it says Fjenslev - I dont think that it is an old spelling, I think it is spelled by someone that do not know.

If it says Fjerslev the correct spelling is Fjerritslev - same comment.

So CLMW mark could be OK.
But month mark is not accurate enough. It is some 90% correct. The 2 lines should follow eachother - tehy do for some time then they split - and that is NOT correct.

Year mark 1702 3 towers - do not look anything like what we see at your marks
same goes for 1701 and 1700 etc etc...

So my conclusion is Hanau pseudomarks.

[Hose_dk]

The swedish mark S + katfott is 1912 and onwards. Not before.

nice piece by the way. Even though that marks are a bit confusing.

[jackk]

Thank you! I think Hanau.