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813 mark on mustard dish - German or Austrian
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:21 pm
by jackk
I bought two beautiful mustard dishes. I cannot find any reference to their 813 silver mark. Any help out there?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:45 pm
by paulh
Could they possibly be Mexican or Spanish Colonial? 813 was a grade sometimes used in that part of the world.
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:48 pm
by jackk
I lean toward austrian or german production. Glass part may even be bohemian, but of course am not sure.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:04 am
by kerangoumar
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:31 pm
by jackk
I am aware of 813 being finnish. I just do not believe this set is finnish.
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:42 pm
by admin
Hi,
Certainly looks to be of middle European origins. What does the mark on the left depict?
Tom
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:49 pm
by jackk
Tom, this is the macro zoom I was able to get with my lens. I tried 500 times. :)
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:50 pm
by admin
With a loupe, what do you see it as?
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:32 am
by kerangoumar
There is always the possibility that the set was made by or for a German or Austrian in Finland, which would account for the typical Germanic elements and the Finnish mark. The work doesn't look Finnish in a cultural sense but the marks still would represent its place of manufacture.
Something along the lines of what are you if you are born in a foreign country of English parents.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:54 am
by byron mac donald
Hello All-
I would consider it a multi-national piece. The item seems to have traveled around the world! Austria, Germany, Finland, Mexico and Spain.
But can it be explained as simply Fininish by the 813 mark?
regards - Byron
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:42 pm
by Juke
No, the item is not Finnish. If it would be Finnish it would have the complete set of hallmarks with the crown, purity etc. Also the purity is marked with 813H and not with only the number 813. Numbers neither look like on Finnish hallmarks.