I have been reviewing the earlier posts on the swan mark struck on items of silver and the general consensus is that, other than on watch cases, the dates of use are between 1864 and 1893. If I have misinterpreted this or missed a post then I would be grateful for further guidance. However this is not the main objective of this post.
I have a pair of candlesticks on which I am researching their history and provenance. They are Britannia standard silver assayed in London in 1711 and were made by David Willaume. They are 22.3 cms tall and and have a combined weight of 1.064kgs.They are however also struck with the swan mark. The engraved crest is for Monthermer, and Ralph Montagu 1st Duke of Montagu. He was created Viscount Monthermer and Earl of Montagu by William of Orange (William III) on his accession to the English throne in 1689. In 1705 when his son and heir married the daughter of John Churchill, 1st Duke of Marlborough, he was created Duke of Montagu and Marquess of Monthermer.....but I digress.
I acquired the candlesticks at auction in Versailles, Paris but what I do not know is how they got to France in the first instance and this is what I am trying to ascertain! The auction house have only said they were owned by a person who lived in Versailles and they did not form part of a known collection. And so my question is what is the criteria for the swan mark to be struck? Is it when the item is brought to France or is it when the item is sold in France? Who is responsible for submitting the item and to who is it submitted? Would there be contemporaneous records detailing when the item was struck and who was the person who submitted it?
Lots of questions so any help would be appreciated.