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Unknown French maker on spoons

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:27 am
by Kirils
Hello. Please help identify this makers mark A with Cross.

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Re: Unknown French maker on spoons

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:23 am
by JayT
At this point all I can say is this is not a Paris maker. If you could sharpen up the image of the Minerva head in the barrel-shaped reserve (800 standard silver), we might be able to identify the region of manufacture by the mark next to Minerva's forehead, and then look for the maker in that region.
Good luck in your research!

Re: Unknown French maker on spoons

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:46 am
by Kirils
Unfortunately I was unable to take a good photo of the mark. But From what I can see it is Nancy. It has this symbol:

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Re: Unknown French maker on spoons

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:13 pm
by anikopol
If I am correct, on the case appears "Denis Grau / Tourcoing".
See:
http://www.daelgrau.com/fr/histoire
The firm still exists !

I do not know if it this the original case (it may or may not be, even if you bought it at the same time as the spoons), but please be aware that Tourcoing is in the North of France, and Nancy in the East.
https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/Tourcoing,+59200/Nancy/@49.6962029,2.2982238,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x47c328d4be0a275d:0x252e317d7dad858f!2m2!1d3.16207!2d50.724993!1m5!1m1!1s0x4794986e17a692cd:0x4ed671b10d82498d!2m2!1d6.184417!2d48.692054!3e0

As you know, marks are sometimes hard to read. Are you sure that the mark is for Nancy ?

Re: Unknown French maker on spoons

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:22 pm
by anikopol
I have sent an email in French to the firm to ask if they used the A above a cross as a symbol for their silversmith mark.
We will see if I have answer.

Re: Unknown French maker on spoons

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:29 am
by Kirils
anikopol wrote:If I am correct, on the case appears "Denis Grau / Tourcoing".
See:
http://www.daelgrau.com/fr/histoire
The firm still exists !

I do not know if it this the original case (it may or may not be, even if you bought it at the same time as the spoons), but please be aware that Tourcoing is in the North of France, and Nancy in the East.
https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/Tourcoing,+59200/Nancy/@49.6962029,2.2982238,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x47c328d4be0a275d:0x252e317d7dad858f!2m2!1d3.16207!2d50.724993!1m5!1m1!1s0x4794986e17a692cd:0x4ed671b10d82498d!2m2!1d6.184417!2d48.692054!3e0

As you know, marks are sometimes hard to read. Are you sure that the mark is for Nancy ?


Thank you anikopol for all your effort. I'm sure it is Nansy. I will try to make a good photo of it today.

Re: Unknown French maker on spoons

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:59 am
by Kirils
Here you go, I've taken a better photo of the mark.

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