Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

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Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby kurban » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:16 am

Hello, I need help to identify the maker ( CPV? GPV? ) and possibly ownership, they are 7" side plates with coronet and monogram. Ive done a lot of research but couldn't find much online. Thanks for looking.

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby jgl » Fri Jul 21, 2017 4:18 pm

Orfèvre : C-P Vahland, 1810-1822, Orfèvrerie : la grosserie, 20 Cour de Harlay 1812, puis 14 quai des Orfèvres 1822.

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby JayT » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:01 pm

The personalization is a 9-point crown of a count. Without a good provenance the initials alone won't help you find the original owner.

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby kurban » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:35 pm

Thank you very much for the help...

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby blakstone » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:08 pm

Christophe-Philippe Vahland was succeeded at 14 quai des Orfèvres in 1837 by François Auguste Grattepain, who registered his mark at that address on 1 Feb 1837. Vahland died on 10 Jan 1852, leaving his estate to Grattepain. Grattepain (born 7 May 1797) cancelled his mark on 30 Jun 1856. I cannot find any death date for Grattepain, nor any familial connection between Vahland and Grattepain.

Vahland's listing in the 1829 almanac notes that he was a supplier to the Prince of Waldeck & Pyrmont - at the time Prince George II (1789-1845) – and (translation mine) “maker of all kinds of silverware in the most modern taste, tumblers at the best prices, and will buy old silver”.

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby jgl » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:59 am

Patronyme M.O. : Grattepain N° 01126
Prénom (Etat civil) : François-Auguste
Initiales : F.G.
Profession : L'orfèvrerie : partie de table.
Lieu d'activité : Paris
Adresse de l'atelier : 14 quai des Orfèvres
Date d'insculpation : 1er février 1837.
Date de biffage : 30 juin 1856
N° Préfecture : 3758.
N° de garantie : 3606
Symbole : un grattoir, une étoile dessus

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby jgl » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:11 am

Documentation : Archives de la Garantie, Paris : planche d'insculpation n° 33, Archives de la Garantie,
Paris : registre d'insculp. 1820 à 1840.

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby jgl » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:15 am

Patronyme M.O. : Grattepain N° 01126
Prénom (Etat civil) : François-Auguste
Initiales : F.G.
Profession : L'orfèvrerie : partie de table.
Lieu d'activité : Paris
Adresse de l'atelier : 14 quai des Orfèvres
Date d'insculpation : 1er février 1837.
Date de biffage : 30 juin 1856
N° Préfecture : 3758.
N° de garantie : 3606
Symbole : un grattoir, une étoile dessus
Documentation : Archives de la Garantie, Paris : planche d'insculpation n° 33, Archives de la Garantie,
Paris : registre d'insculp. 1820 à 1840.

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Re: Help with makers marks and ownership 1793-94

Postby kurban » Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:51 pm

Thank you very much, That is a great help...


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