Hanau box?

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clown123
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Hanau box?

Postby clown123 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:01 am

Anyone ever see these marks before? I strongly suspect Hanua - possibly Roth? any help appreciated. Bos is mother of pearl and silver frame.

http://i42.tinypic.com/14uhukl.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/hvas8j.jpg

[Tom, if you want these pics for your website, let me knowe and I'll send to you.]

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Postby swisssilver » Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:57 am

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This box is french
the first mark "A" date from 10/1/1744 to 10/1/1750, poinçons de charge de Paris, assayer Antoine Leschaudel
The second mark date from 10/1/1762 to 10/1/ 1768, poinçons de charge Paris, asseyer Jean-Jacques Pévost
I found the marks in the book "Les poinçons Français", Yves Markezana
Is it normal that there are 2 "poinçons de charge" from different asseyer and from different times?

Koen

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Postby clown123 » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:08 am

I am suspicious about having two marks from different assayers from different times. That is why I suspect that this may be Hanau rather than French. However I stand corrected...

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Postby swisssilver » Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:59 pm

i'll found this marks on page 30 and 31 in the book
Les poinçons Français d'Or,d'Argent, de Platine
the Yves Markezana
greatings Koen

clown123
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Postby clown123 » Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:58 pm

Thank you very much Koen. I will have it evaluated by an expert in French silver. Much appreciated.

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Postby dinio » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:51 pm

The mark in the middle is the charge mark for small silver objects for the period oct 1762-oct 1768 ( Beuque N° 3845).
But the crowned A is not a charge mark as swisssilver suggested. It is the date letter for the year 1764 (Tardy p134).

I did not found the maker, because I could not read easily the letters. Is it F.D.P. ?

Small objects did not have always a discharge mark so the set of marks is consistent. Nevertheless you should look carefully in other locations in case the discharge mark had been struck somewhere else.

But this is definitely Parisian silver from year 1764.

Dinio

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Postby clown123 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:30 am

Dinio,

That is amazing information. The letters are F D P. Does help?

Cliff

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Postby clown123 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:31 am

There is another mark stamped on the rim. I'll take a picture and post on Sunday.

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