Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

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Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby Olvia » Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:10 am

Hello,
I have this Christofle sterling silver 950 cutelry set with three markings. I can tell one on the right is the 950 silver and on the left is Christofle with the stars but it has also one more with a crown which I cannot find what it is.
Any ideas are much appreciated.
Thank you!

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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby dognose » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:00 am

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

See Cardeilhac at: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=34542&p=89451&hilit=CARDEILHAC#p89451

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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby AG2012 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:16 am

Hi,
Christofle acquired Cardeilhac silvermiths in 1951 ( three stars and a bee / trois étoile et une abeille + legion of honor crowned, over a crescent / la légion d'honneur couronnée, surmontant un croissant).
Every solid silver .950 item I have seen is marked with Minerve 1er Titre (argent 950/1000).
That`s all I can tell, very unusual to have 950 fineness without Minerva. Let`s wait for more responses.
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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby Olvia » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:02 am

Thank you very much for your replies!
So at a point they were putting both Christofle and Cardeilhac markings?

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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby AG2012 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:30 am

Right, but en losenge mark should be for solid silver, as opposed to rectangle mark for silver plated items.
Lack of Minerva head is a mystery to me, though. It is well legislated guarantee for solid silver.
Let`s wait.

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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby dognose » Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:40 pm

The other mark is the Christofle export mark.

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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby AG2012 » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:30 pm

The image from a previous post; export mark in the middle on top.
pour l'exportation,un troisième poinçon en forme d'obus remplace les deux precedentes dont il est la synthese: on y trouve les initiales O.C. l` abeille,les etoiles, et le titre legal de l`argent


Combination of two previous marks; initials O.C. three stars, a bee and legal silver standard (instead of Minerva).
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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby JayT » Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:15 pm

Hello

Christofle, a silverplate manufacturer, acquired Cardeilhac in 1951, a company to which Christofle had always outsourced the manufacture of its solid silver products. Following acquisition, Christofle applied the Cardeilhac trademark to its products for marketing purposes as the company had a prestigious reputation.

Your thoroughly polished flatware in the Louis XIII style was originally a Cardeilhac pattern that Christofle named Royal Ciselé. I don’t know its original name. The pattern was discontinued in 1960. Thus we can date the manufacture of your flatware quite precisely from 1951-1960.

The export mark with 950 serves as a silver standard mark; thus the Minerva head is not necessary in this case.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby amena » Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:53 am

Thank you all for this very interesting post
Amena

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Re: Christofle cutlery set with crown marking

Postby Olvia » Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:43 pm

Thank you very much all for your enlightening posts!
All the best


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