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Air Ministry mark
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:53 am
by tdh10
Mappin & Webb with Air Ministry mark.
AM Crown mark of Air Ministry with Queen`s crown. Every RAF item had the crown (either King`s or Queen`s crown) and AM.
Air Ministry existed until 1964.
Re: Air Ministry mark
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:37 am
by silvermakersmarks
HI and welcome to the forum
If you have a question please ask it and add pictures of the item you are querying. If your post is just giving us information then pictures will also be very useful.
Phil
Re: Air Ministry mark
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:14 am
by Traintime
Yes, Phil's absolutely right...we need a photo and a clarification. I just got through looking at a cup & saucer with Crown over wreath-containing-RAF (blue on white china) with no "AM" anywhere in sight. So what are you saying here?
Re: Air Ministry mark
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:41 am
by Traintime
Unfortunately, as long as this can of worms is opened, it could be read as mis-leading with the site blamed for this. So, reference Worthpoint mug...RAF-under-Crown Encircled. Blue on white china. Newhall Hanley Staffs Made In England...see mark 2871, "Printed mark, c. 1930-51." [Encyclopedia of British Pottery and Porcelain Marks, Geoffrey A. Godden, F.R.S.A., MCMLXIV (1964), Crown Publishers, Inc. New York, New York] This is a wide range, but WWII seems possible assuming the item is authentic. Any photographic evidence to the contrary would certainly be helpful.
I believe I might still have a piece of silverware which I will post if I can get to finding it. Hopefully it was RAF and not CRAF.
Re: Air Ministry mark
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:32 pm
by Traintime
Wiki for the Air Ministry with 1940 photo (tap/enlarge) of offices showing official emblem on wall over fireplace:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_MinistryRight now, c/s set unknown maker, impressed Made in England, ink dated 1940, and topmarked with (faded blue?) seal shown above, eBay listing. No "AM" marking.
Re: Air Ministry mark
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:11 pm
by Traintime
Additional listing: Blue body, double handle bullion cup, reported as enlisted mens mess for RAF. Bottom marked A-Crown-M, over known maker mark #3171 (Godden) for George Procter & Co. L(td), Gladstone Pottery, Longton. Mark used 1924-40 and dated on yhis item for 1940. This confirms an "AM" mark for some cases. Warning-an "AM" letters mark is used by Authentic Models in retro-production items...do not confuse this with Air Ministry!
Re: Air Ministry mark
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:12 pm
by Traintime