Please help with that crest!!!

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dinozaur2001
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Please help with that crest!!!

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Hello.I buy a beautiful snuff-box with a ?,,royal''? family crest.
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and i need help with that(CE?EC) silver mark .The 800 is the silver purity ,but the central mark is unknow for me.
davidappleton
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Re: Please help with that crest!!!

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It's not a "family" or "royal" crest; it looks like the monogram EV (or VE) with an imperial crown over the top of it.

I don't think it's identifiable heraldry at all.

Sorry!

David
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Hi,
Royal cipher (monogram surmounted by a crown). Few can be identified - there are hundreds.The crown itself does not help much (e.g. the crown of Austrian Archdukes, German Grand dukes). Royal houses intermingled in Europe. Besides, it does not mean the cigarette case actually belonged to the member of royal family. Huge number of presentation cases was given as a token for minor services to royalty.
For example: Royal monograms of Germany take a look here
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... of_Germany
Good luck with the search. Start with royalty closest to your country.
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dinozaur2001
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Re: Please help with that crest!!!

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davidappleton wrote:It's not a "family" or "royal" crest; it looks like the monogram EV (or VE) with an imperial crown over the top of it.

I don't think it's identifiable heraldry at all.

Sorry!

David
Thank's.Maybe you may help with the silver mark?
dinozaur2001
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Re: Please help with that crest!!!

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AG2012 wrote:Hi,
Royal cipher (monogram surmounted by a crown). Few can be identified - there are hundreds.The crown itself does not help much (e.g. the crown of Austrian Archdukes, German Grand dukes). Royal houses intermingled in Europe. Besides, it does not mean the cigarette case actually belonged to the member of royal family. Huge number of presentation cases was given as a token for minor services to royalty.
For example: Royal monograms of Germany take a look here
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cate ... of_Germany
Good luck with the search. Start with royalty closest to your country.
Regards
Thank's for answer and the new search direction.I dont know the country/region where was made.I buy the snuffbox in a flea market in Romania.The silver mark is unknown to.I search the mark in all avaible sites ,and 00.
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As far as I can see it`s a cigarette case, not a snuffbox.
Royal courts from Eastern Europe often commissioned silver from Germany, Austria and Hungary (after WW I).
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Hello again,
I think this is the royal cipher we were searching for.
Royal Presentation box given by King Victor Emmanuel II of Italy.
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It may be worthwhile searching for the trade mark in this topic:

Italian Silverware and Jewellery Manufacturers

Trev.
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dognose wrote:It may be worthwhile searching for the trade mark in this topic:

Italian Silverware and Jewellery Manufacturers

Trev.
Thank's
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Re: Please help with that crest!!!

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AG2012 wrote:Hello again,
I think this is the royal cipher we were searching for.
Royal Presentation box given by King Victor Emmanuel II of Italy.
Regards
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Wow,thank's,multumesc,grazie.merci,domo arigato.
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