crown on silver french pot

[david8]

hi, can anyone help with this little silver pot, is this the crown of a french earl or duke? thanks

[JayT]

Your image looks blurry on my monitor. If there are 5 leaves then this might be the coronet of a French duke. France did not have earls.

Is this item marked for French silver, or is it your assumption that it is French because of the fleur-de-lys on the body of the item?

[AG2012]

Is it made in France and when? Can we see the marks?
Regards

[david8]

hi, i have added clearer pictures, it isnt hallmarked but tests for silver. i assumed it was french and not sure if its a pill box or vinaigrette missing the grill. just would like to know what the n.d means and where from. thanks

[oel]

Hi,

Please show us the back of the case and tell us the dimensions, could it be a vesta case?

Oel.

[david8]

hi, i dont believe it to be a vesta case, as there is no scratch pad, there was a small piece of cotton wool inside. it is 3.9cms in height and 1.5cms diameter. but im more interested in the marks on the lid. thanks

[oel]

Thanks not clearly French, no(hall)marks and could be silver plated. Your thread has been moved to the Family Crest topics for assistance.


Oel.

[nobilityhouse]

It is a souvenir of France. I have seen the same symbol on two different brooches and a napkin ring. Unfortunately, nobody knew what the initials stood for. I have not been able to solve the mystery, either. Kind regards.

[nobilityhouse]

Found it! The problem was thinking it was an anchor below the crown, but it is an L and it's reverse, as it is used as a cipher for artistic balance. The symbol is for the society known as ''Hospitalité Notre Dame de Lourdes" (Hospitality of Our Lady of Lourdes). It is a volunteer organization founded in 1885 whose mission is to welcome pilgrims at the various sanctuaries of Lourdes. They do have a website. Kind regards.

[dognose]

Hi Owen,

Great sleuthing!



https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitali ... de_Lourdes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospitali ... de_Lourdes

Trev.

[nobilityhouse]

Thank you. Could not have done it without Google Translate from the French blogs. Happy New Year everyone!

[david8]

Thank you for your help. very much appreciated. happy new year