Coronet and Monogram help request

[SilverK]

I've got a London scent bottle dated 1885 with a coronet on it that I don't recognise. Should be easy but not, apparently, for me. It's the pair of trefoil-shaped attachments between the strawberry leaves that are causing my difficulty. Can anyone identify this coronet?

I read the monogram as 'MB'. I suspect that it won't be easy to identify who this is, but any help on that would be gratefully received as well.

Thanks.

[dognose]

Hi SilverK,

Spanish Marquess?



See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronet

Trev.

[SilverK]

Thanks Trev,

That's close but not quite close enough, I think, to tie this down. The lozenge below the central strawberry leaf should be diamond in shape. I'd also seen the French Marquis coronet, as below, which has the correct headband (if that's the right term), but has pearls on the points. What's needed is something which merges the two (maybe that's exactly what the engraver did, accidentally!)



There's also a Portugese one, similar to the Spanish version, but again the headband doesn't match since we need alternate diamond and lozenges:



So we have three almost, but not-quite-correct, coronets from the Wiki page, but from three different countries.....

[Traintime]

Regardless of which state of office it represents, has anyone noticed that we are looking at the heavily exposed underside of the crown? Companies engaged in plating often used this form of open crown to imply they are protecting something lesser (base metals) with something greater (precious [or royal] metals--silver as in a crown). Could this mean we have a piece belonging to someone who is protected within a royal enclosure such as a family or even an heir who is as yet to be elevated to the status of wearing this crown? Does this comply with known practices?

[Traintime]

Crown makers mark of Reddall & Co. Newark, N.J. USA has extreme similarity of elements minus two points and altered fluer de lis crest at front. Stranger than fiction?

[Traintime]

Like coronet found related to Tayleur (Taylor) Arms described as "crest of Out of a ducal coronet Or" on site of cheshire-heraldry.org.uk (very close but not exact-suggestive of French origin?).