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ER VII crest confirmation

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:24 am
by Nelly63
I have a pair of sugar tongs with a crest of ER VII on it and a number 3 underneath. The makers mark shows as M & W P.P. I can't find out anything about what this might mean. Can anyone help.

Re: ER VII crest confirmation

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:01 am
by dognose
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Re: ER VII crest confirmation

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:25 am
by Nelly63
Sorry about that. First time. Attached images hopefully
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Re: ER VII crest confirmation

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:06 am
by dognose
Hi,

The 'M & W - P.P' likely stands for 'Mappin & Webb - Prince's Plate'

Prince's Plate was their trade name:

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Mappin & Webb (1908) Ltd. - Sheffield - 1910

Try to capture a larger, more full on image of the crest.

Trev.

Re: ER VII crest confirmation

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:16 pm
by nobilityhouse
It does not seem to be a crest, which is the top piece to a coat of arms. This is called a royal cypher, which is the initial or initials of a person or persons beautifully entwined and topped with a coronet signifying rank. In London the cyphers can be seen on phone boxes and palace gates. In France some of the best are seen at the Royal Chateau at Blois. In America they can be seen on souvenirs from Colonial Williamsburg. The letters stand for the Latinized phrase Edwardus Rex VII, meaning King Edward the 7th. These silverplate tongs are a souvenir, not actually owned by King Edward VII.