Family crest identification please.

[user701]

I have one old book of family crests, but this one is not in it, just wondering if anyone knows the family name please.

The crest is a fallen log or tree in front a gate.



Thanks in advance for any help.

[dognose]

Hi User,

Just food for thought, but not all crests found on silver, are taken from Coats-of Arms. Sometimes, especially during the 19th century with the 'new' money merchant classes, some of these people had no family history as such, and invented crests, often being a play on their names or similar.

I'm not saying this is the case in your example, and I cannot think of a name that could possibly fit, but just offering an alternative line of thought.

Trev.

[JLDoggett]

Maybe someone named Gates, Stile, or Fence...

[user701]

Thanks for the replies, if it helps the piece of silver it is on dates 1918

[nobilityhouse]

Let’s not look only at the gate. There is a green mound and a fallen oak tree. From the General Amoury of England, etc we get the blazon of this crest: Upon a mount Vert, in front of a gate Or, the trunk of an oak tree eradicated and sprouting towards the Dexter proper. This is the crest for Alfred Haden BARRS of Staffordshire and later on, the family would be BARRS-HADEN. (The gate should have dots for gold, or it should be blazoned proper, but let’s not quibble over that.) Cheers, Nobility House.

[dognose]

Whitehall, November 24, 1876

The Queen has been pleased to grant unto Alfred Haden Barrs, of High Harcourt, in the parish of Rowley Regis, and county of Stafford, Gentleman, the younger of the two but only surviving son of George Barrs, of Rowley Regis, Clerk in Holy Orders, and of Mary, his wife, formerly the wife of John Haden, late of Haden Hill, in the parish of Rowley Regis aforesaid, Esquire, all deceased, Her Royal licence and authority that he and his issue may, in compliance with a direction contained in the last will and testament of the said John Haden, take and use the surname of Haden in addition to and after that of Barrs, and that he and they may bear the arms of Haden quarterly with those of Barrs ; such arms being first duly exemplified according to the laws of arms, and recorded in the College of Arms, otherwise the said Royal licence and permission to be void and of none effect: And to command that the said Royal concession, and declaration be recorded in Her Majesty's said College of Arms.

Source: The London Gazette - 1st December 1876

Trev.

[user701]

Thank you both Nobilityhouse and Trev for the information, very interesting read.