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Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:37 pm
by Francais
This is a coat of arms from a piece of Augsburg silver. So it is probably a German Bishop, or Cardinal. Any help will be appreciated.
Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:31 am
by Francais
Thanks to the people on Heraldik site, this is he coat of arms of the Abbot of Marchtal, who in 1790 was Paulus Schmid.
Maurice
Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:17 pm
by dognose
Hi Maurice,
Many thanks for taking the time to update the topic. It's very much appreciated.
Trev.
Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:32 pm
by Francais
Although I didn't get this corroborated by the people at Heraldrik
I have figured out the meaning of PAZM it is Paulus Abbot at Marchtal.
Maurice
Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:49 pm
by Joerg
Hi Maurice
I was following up your posts on the "Heraldik-im-Netz.de" site.
On your respond you asked:
So I was wondering if P = Paulus A= Abt Z= ? M = Marchtal.
Would this be possible, and any idea what Z stands for?
Did you already get an answer for the "Z" question?
It stands for "zu", German for "at"
Kind regards
Jörg
Re: Coat of Arms German Bishop? Cardinal?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:04 pm
by Francais
Hi,
I posted two religious pieces, in one I asked, but no one answered, then I answered it myself in the other. I thought of Zu but thought it would be odd to include a preposition in a title, and even thought it might refer to Zircarie Schwaben. Then I found the title of the Abbess of Rottenmunster was Abtisin zu Rottenmunster. So in fact they used Zu in the title. It seems that in German you are more likely to use all words in an abbreviation, whereas in English it is less common.
I appreciate the help, but quite honestly I feel better about my having figured it out for myself.
Thanks,
Maurice