Handle of a ladle

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Handle of a ladle

Postby amena » Mon Oct 18, 2021 4:20 am

On the handle of a ladle there is this engraving.
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I assume it is an Italian ladle, although there are no recognizable marks, only the letters AG.
Does anyone have information on this?
Thanks for attention
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Re: Handle of a ladle

Postby amena » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:03 am

Someone pointed out to me that the coat of arms could belong to a family from the Pesaro area.
And indeed there is a silversmith from Pesaro who has a similar mark.
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Could he be the author? Or my fantasy gallops too much.
What do you think?
Thanks
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Re: Handle of a ladle

Postby dognose » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:09 am

Hi Amena,

It looks like a pretty good match to me.

Trev.

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Re: Handle of a ladle

Postby amena » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:40 am

Thanks Trev for your authoritative endorsement.
I will consider the attribution to be 90% valid
In fact, I am always a little perplexed when I have to compare a real mark to a design. The designer always makes an interpretation of the mark he sees and sometimes the interpretations diverge incredibly.
See example below
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Unfortunately the old books have almost all chosen to publish drawings and the few photographs published on some are of a very bad quality.
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Re: Handle of a ladle

Postby AG2012 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:36 am

On the othr hand, drawings show ideal, exact image of a mark.
(Unless there is a photo of perfetly struck mark).
Would you ever recognize a lion rampant in a photo of the mark in the middle (above examples) ?
It is easier to recognize a mark when we know what to search for.
In short, both drawings and photos are useful.
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Re: Handle of a ladle

Postby amena » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:07 am

Would you ever recognize a lion rampant in a photo of the mark in the middle (above examples)?
No, I would never have recognized him precisely because he is NOT a rampant lion, nor a winged dragon.
The first time I came across this mark I thought it was a fake, as far as it was different from the design. Only later did I realize that it was the design that was wrong. This is the danger of the design: if it was taken from a badly struck or difficult to interpret trademark, it can lead to a completely misleading image.
I understand that in the old days, when the techniques of reproducing a photo in a book were very crude or very expensive, it was necessary to resort to drawing, but today photography, indeed a series of photographs is far preferable.
I think that with the advent of the internet, the handbooks of the brands will be able to be re-edited in digital form with one or better some photos of real punchings.
My humble opinion.


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