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George 111 duty mark?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:11 am
by gsmoggy
Hi members
I would be interested in your thoughts on this George 111 duty mark is it right?, my feeling is that ,there is something not right about it.
I may be wrong. I have left the makers mark out on purpose.
Is it unusual that only the lid of the box is marked and no marks on base.
Regards Guido.



Re: George 111 duty mark?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:12 am
by silvermakersmarks
The duty mark looks OK to me. Here is my exemplar of an 1809 mark:

Can I just say that it would easier to make a judgement from a "normal" picture rather than from a microscope camera picture.
However it is unusual to have marks on the lid of a box and not on the base.
Phil
Re: George 111 duty mark?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:43 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Is it a hinged box ? If not, can you tell for sure the lid actually belongs to the box (perfect fit and the same, matching decoration)?
Regards
Re: George 111 duty mark?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:49 am
by gsmoggy
Hello Phil and AG.
Thanks for your comments, I do not have the box ,I have purchased it ,it is coming from England.
the images are from the internet.
I have been told the marks are %100 correct. I felt the duty head mark could have been sharper.
I have decided to post the box with all the marks,not sure why marks not on base?
The maker Joseph Ash 1.
interested in comments.
Regards Guido.




Re: George 111 duty mark?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:32 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Most likely because of basket weave pattern, marks are on the lid; there are identical examples (London 1803 bellow).
I think high relief is probably not very suitable for punching marks (flat counter surface is needed).
In a word, I think everything is OK with your box.Enjoy it !
Regards

Re: George 111 duty mark?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:02 am
by gsmoggy
Hello AG
Many thanks for your comments ,makes sense to have flat base ,when punching marks(always reason ,why things are done or not done,just have to be worked out)
I was under bidder at auction (problem with internet connection) a silver dealer friend tracked the buyer,and I have been able to get it.
Strange situation. (unfortunate price increase )
Have also discovered a similar box (may be better condition) in The lion collection of British silver boxes.Same maker.
found this out after purchase. I feel an interesting box.
Again many thanks great work as always.
regards Guido.
Re: George 111 duty mark?
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 7:43 pm
by gsmoggy
Hi Members
An image of a similar box to mine,same date ,in The lion collection of British silver boxes.
Regards Guido.


