Who is the London maker SSc or SSe?

[niceguy1]

HI

Who might be the maker SSe or SSc on a London 1880 large trophy cup?

THANKS

[SteveDWollongong]

Hi Niceguy1,

I'm unable to find an SSe or SSc either but will put forward another possibility.

I agree the 'e ' or 'c' looks intentional, particularly with the clean cut out of the cartouche but wonder if its not a damaged makers mark of Steven Smith of King Street, Covent Garden. My reasoning is that if you look closely at the second S, it appears incomplete at the top just where the small 'c' or 'e' appears.

I of course could be completely wrong which wouldn't be a first! Let's see what light others may be able to shine.

Cheers,
Steve

[dognose]

I agree with Steve, this is the mark of Stephen Smith & Son (as a firm, often confused with Samuel Smith & Son) who were taken over by Mappin & Webb in 1886.

I think what has happened in this case, is that the item was bought in and Stephen Smith & Son have overstruck the existing mark. If the original mark was struck deeper than Smith's, then part of Smith's mark may not have taken on the rounded surface of the item, that is to say, if the original stamp was was deeper on the right, and the secondary stamp was deeper on the left, then the resulting effect would occur.

I know, clear as mud!

Trev.

[niceguy1]

HI

I can’t see any overstamping underneath but I’ll go along with the experts!

Thanks for your efforts.