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zlhiker
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for help

Postby zlhiker » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:32 am

in the bottle of a cup,some marks is http://s1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa343/zlhiker/, please help me :1,the mark is ture ,2,mean-1735 london ?thanks .

http://s1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa343/zlhiker/?action=view&current=baioji3.jpg

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JBA
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Re: for help

Postby JBA » Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:43 am

Correct. I believe the maker to be Joseph Mumford. John Montgomery has a very similar punch, but less pronounced Serifs, so I think Mumford is a closer bet.

zlhiker
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Re: for help

Postby zlhiker » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:20 am

thanks ,butcould you tell me about Joseph Mumford. for expample: which year did he/she register?

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Re: for help

Postby nigel le sueur » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:37 am

First mark entered 20th November 1711 as a smallworker, entered two furthur marks on the same register on the 27th july 1720, presumably from the same address Field Lane
That is all l have maybe somebody else has more info, l could find nothing in "Heals" all info from" Grimwades"
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Re: for help

Postby SirWatkynBassett » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:16 am

Hello,

Gentleman, let us take some time to consider some other options.

Joseph Mumford was quite possibly dead by the time this bottle cap was assayed. The forum has some detail of his likely demise in 1724 or 1727, this is to be seen at: viewtopic.php?f=74&t=25750

A close inspection of the "IM" reveals the possibility of further detail above the letters, and perhaps also the exsistance of a pellet between the letters.

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Bearing in mind this possible extra detail, take a look at the mark of James Manners, noted by Arthur Grimwade and recorded as No. 1515. It was registered in 1734.

Bassett

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Re: for help

Postby JBA » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:44 pm

Excellent correction. You're absolutely correct. Didn't see the faint impression of the pellet above from the original picture, but in your enlargement it is quite clear.

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Re: for help

Postby zlhiker » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:11 pm

thanks a lot ,everyone .


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