Riding Crop London 1908/09

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Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby nigel le sueur » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:01 am

l cannot find this maker, has any body any idea please ?
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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby dognose » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:53 am

Hi Nigel,

Just guessing, but I wonder if that may be one of the marks used by James Smith & Sons of New Oxford Street.

Hopefully someone will confim/deny.

See: http://www.james-smith.co.uk/history.cfm

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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby nigel le sueur » Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:35 am

Hi Trev
Thanks for the reply, it appears that James Smith a small worker entered his mark in 1877, his son took over as a smallworker in 1881 and then in 1904 the grandsons took over, the mark recorded is JS&Ss in three sizes.
Although the grandsons were called Thomas and Robert, they kept the name of the company as James Smith and sons, their business was Gold and Silver stick mounters operating from "exculsive" London addresses.
With all this information is it possible for this mark to be a missing mark? l am intrigued by this matter and look forward to any suggestions.

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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby dognose » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:09 am

Should James Smith & Sons be our man, then here's an advertisement from them published in 1896:

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James Smith & Sons - London - 1896

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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby MCB » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:35 am

Hello Nigel

The mark was registered in 1905 by James Schomberg & Sons who were whip manufacturers at 10 Long Acre WC.
The mark is shown in John Culme's Directory of Gold & Silversmiths 1838-1914 Vol II page 205 at item 10092.

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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby nigel le sueur » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:15 am

Hi Mike

Thanks for your reply, it appears that l need Culmes Directory, (yet another book)

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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby nigel le sueur » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:19 am

There again just seen the price !!! l think l will stick with Grimwade,Jackson and Fallon for the time being
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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09

Postby dognose » Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:30 pm

Thanks Mike for solving the mystery.

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Source: Kelly's Directory of the Leather Trades - 1885

I do not think I need say anything more about whips or horns except to mention that Messrs. Callow & Son, of 8, Park Lane, Piccadilly, and Messrs. Swaine & Adeney, of 185, Piccadilly, are, so far as my knowledge goes, the best whip-makers, although there are, no doubt, others who do their work in a first-rate manner. I have bought whips of James Schomberg, 122, Long Acre, who makes whips his speciality, and who has given me perfect satisfaction.

Source: Highways and Horses - Athol Maudslay - 1888

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