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Unknown Silver Hallmarks on Cream Jug Please Help!

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:02 am
by nmdc114
Hi anyone! I need some help please. I have tried looking all over the place to find out what these hallmarks mean. They are on a Silver Cream Jug that I have owned for some time and I would like to know more about it. Can anyone help me please. I would be ever so grateful. Regards, nmdc114
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:31 pm
by admin
Hi,
Don't know the maker, but the cartouche around the maker's initials sure looks like a map of Maine.
Regards, Tom
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:41 am
by nmdc114
Thanks Tom, I dont even know the Country of origin and wondered whether the three lions represented a particular country. Tom, could you tell me where Maine is. Thanks, Nigel
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:02 pm
by 2209patrick
I think Tom was refering to the state of Maine in the U.S.A. The outline of the mark does bear a resemblance to the State's boundaries.

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Checked my American and Canadian references, but could not find that exact mark. One possibility might be Towle Silversmiths, Newburyport, Massachusetts. They had a Paul Revere trademark that had the letters P and R in script. The problem is, I have only seen the PR letters in a rectangle shape cartouche.

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Best regards,
Pat.
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 4:59 pm
by dragonflywink
Doesn't look like an American piece to me, gut feeling is that it's from South America and not particularly old. Maybe it's my monitor, but the initials in the odd shaped cartouche (country outline?) look like BR rather than PR. What does the engraving on the side say?

Cheryl ;o)
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:17 pm
by admin
OK, back to British this goes. Knew the shape was geographic, with the help of my trusty 1973 Hammond Atlas and the three lion passants in the crest as a clue, ID'ed it as Guernsey, Channel Islands.
http://www.visitguernsey.com/map/?LocationId=1

Regards, Tom
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:35 pm
by dragonflywink
Woohoo! Nice work, Tom. I was wayyyy off.

Cheryl ;o)
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:41 pm
by admin
I think Cheryl is right about the initials being BR. You might contact these folks to see if they made the piece.
http://www.bruce-russell.com/

regards, tom
In 1977 the States of Guernsey allowed Bruce to introduce a unique channel island hallmarking system ....

Imagine that the "Q" is a date letter.
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Thank you all so much!

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:30 pm
by nmdc114
Thank you all so very much. I have emailed Bruce Russell to ask if they can confirm this to be their hallmark and asked if they could possibly give me an overview of the hallmark so that I can let everyone else know in this discussion what each mark represents. Once again, thank you for a most interesting and very informative discussion. Nigel
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Re: Unknown Silver Hallmarks on Cream Jug Please Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:30 am
by Essexboy Fisher
Hello, this image appears the a progression of the Bruce Russell of Guernsey silvermithing concern.

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It is now is Bruce Russell & Son, with a son "Simon". This mark looks like "SR" in the island of Guernsey. Not sure about the date letter "Y" or "K"? In another post on the Forum concerning "Bruce Russell", "P" was stated as date letter for 1989 so "Y" could be late 20th century and if "K" then possibly early 21st Century.

viewtopic.php?f=57&t=35194&hilit=russell+guernsey

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Re: Unknown Silver Hallmarks on Cream Jug Please Help!

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:51 am
by Essexboy Fisher
Hello, worried I might possibly have "erased" my first image.

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