Teaspoon origin

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Teaspoon origin

Postby juantotree » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:23 am

Hi

I would be grateful for some help in identifying where this spoon is from. I have a feeling I have seen these marks before (possibly on this site) but I can't seem to track them down.

Many Thanks
Martin

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby silverly » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:28 am

I don't recognize the A. R. What does the inscription say; it might have something to do with identifying the origin of this spoon.

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby Traintime » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:14 pm

"D.R.A." over "MATCHES" over "1892" over "WON BY" over [Name?]--maybe traceable if we get that?

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby Traintime » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:25 pm

I'm getting Canada, specifically Winnipeg news in 1892: https://newspaperarchive.com/winnipeg-f ... -1892-p-1/

News for 1914 shows D.R.A. matches suspended owing to war...it's rifle association related stuff for shooting awards..so...Dominion Rifle Association?

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby Traintime » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:43 pm

Technically the D.C.R.A. but commonly refered to as the D.R.A., matches were held at Ottawa deciding who would go on to Bisely for the English National Rifle Association championship shoot-offs.

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby Traintime » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:43 pm

One possible (?) A. Rosenthal Ottawa Jeweler c.1887: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=31885&p=91113&hilit=ottawa+jeweler#p91113

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby Traintime » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:55 pm

Aaron Rosenthal was bought out by Birks in 1911, and Birks turns up on D.A.R related spoons. A. Rosenthal was noted to be staying at the Grand Union in New York (Oct.1891) in this list of buyers (upper column two): https://books.google.com/books?id=f3MoA ... &q&f=false
Perhaps he used American sources.

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby Traintime » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:05 pm

One well known mark established for Rosenthal is "A.J.R.". Some bio here: http://www.jimlow.com/home/genealogy/we ... 3_004.html

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby Traintime » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:12 pm

More notes on known Rosenthal marks: http://www.silvercollection.it/CANADASILVERSMITHSR.html

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Re: Teaspoon origin

Postby juantotree » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:21 am

Many thanks for the responses, it looks like Rosenthal is the most likely candidate.

Martin


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