Dutch Spoon 18e century

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Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby ETH » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:48 am

Hello,

I have a Dutch spoon but I can not figure out all the hallmarks.
Can somebody read these hallmarks?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JCC8kf ... Z2ABb/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JCC8kf ... Z2ABb/view

Many thanks!

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Re: Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby ETH » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:51 am

The second link should be this image

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SbbGs_ ... xj94m/view

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Re: Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby ETH » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:01 am

I have embedded the images.

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Re: Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby ETH » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:08 am

[quote="ETH"]I have embedded the images.

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Silver spoon Dutch 18th century - unclear hallmarks

Postby ETH » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:51 pm

Hello,

I have a dutch spoon with hallmarks that I can not read.

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I hope somebody can help me learn more about this spoon.

Many thanks! Cheers

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Re: Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby oel » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:16 pm

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Hi,
Looking at the marks, I believe, going by the large crown, the type of shield, it could be a town mark or year letter (1761?).
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Maker's mark a tree(?) or other way round NW(?) under ? and bellow the Holland duty free mark of 1807. The hatchet is a later duty mark used 1853-1927
Lion rampant under crown Belgian or Dutch?
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I am not sure. The search goes on.

Peter.

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Re: Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby ETH » Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:06 pm

Thank you Peter for your information. I have another detail photo from a onther angle

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Like you I think the top one is the Citymark, looks like SI in a crowned shield.
And I allso think the bottom one is the Makersmark, from this angle my first impression is NW with a angel or something beneath.

I can not link the Marks to a City or a Silversmith.. may be you can tell me more from this image?

Kind regards!

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Re: Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby oel » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:30 am

Finally I think we know where we looking at. My first impression turned out to be correct the spoon is Belgian.
Subject to reservation.
Probably not a lion under a crown but under a fire striker for the Belgian city of Namur/Namen; The ancestral hallmark, given in 1440 by Philippe the Good, shows the Namur Lion beneath a Burgundian Fire striker.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_striker
The year letter crowned for Namur 1761
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The maker's mark
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NW above a symbol (a leaf?): A variant of the master mark of Nicolas Joseph Wodon, of which three variants are already known, or the maker's mark of another master?

Gratitude; Dr. Wim Nys | Hoofd Collectie en onderzoek DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds

Source: Orfèvres Namurois van G. Poskin & Ph. Stokart (Namen, 1982)
Zilver in België Piet Baudouin, Pierre Colman en Dorsan Goethals.


Peter.

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Re: Dutch Spoon 18e century

Postby ETH » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:08 am

Thank you very much Peter for your help.
I was still searching in Dutch hallmark books!

That is really impressive work thanks again!


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