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Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:52 pm
by moonshine
Hello All. I've looked through the Dutch Makers Mark site linked from this website, and could not find this mark. The first letter is difficult to read.
The closest I found was Johannes Hendrikus Tarner, but the dates don't match up if I'm reading the date correctly as 1895 Amsterdam.
12 inches long, 207 grams.
Any help is appreciated as always. Thanks.

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Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:46 am
by oel
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Hi Moonshine, Dutch year letter Gothic L for 1895, office mark or Minerva head with regional assay office letter A(upside down) for city of Amsterdam.
The maker's mark WT under a spoon for: Johannes Wilhelm Tarner, regstered in Amsterdam after 1872 till 1910. Johannes Wilhelm Tarner also used the maker's mark 2JWT. Johannes Wilhem Tarner and his son Johannes Hendricus registered a maker's mark in 1911, W.T under a spoon under the name of Fa.(firm) J.W. Tarner (Tarner J.H & W.J. Tarner) until 1925 when Johannes Hendricus became a travelling salesman.

The father of Johannes Wilhelm was Johannes Hendrikus Tarner, registered silversmith in Amsterdam from 1840/1879 with maker's mark HT under a spoon.

The maker's mark of Johannes Wilhelm Tarner, notice the art style of the W:
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Best,

Oel.

Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:41 pm
by moonshine
Thank you very much for the great information.

Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:01 pm
by JKM
1895 835/1000 silver

Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:38 pm
by Traintime
2nd Standard Purity = .833 until 1953?

Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:32 am
by oel
Yes indeed; lion passant above 2: standard mark silver .833 fineness (used 1814-1953). for more information see:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028


Oel.

Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:11 pm
by Essexboy Fisher
Hello, I hope this set of spoon marks I noted might be the "Daddy" and a useful addition to this post.

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I think the year is 1860 but the City letter is unclear.
Fishless

Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:17 pm
by oel
Hi Fishless,

Yes, you completed the family. The father of Johannes Wilhelm was Johannes Hendrikus Tarner, registered silversmith in Amsterdam from 1840/1879 with maker's mark HT under a spoon. Indeed year letter a for 1860.

Cheers,


Peter

Re: Makers Mark ID on Ladle

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:54 pm
by Essexboy Fisher
Hello again, I was looking at another Dutch spoon on line recently and thought the maker's mark "HT" under a "spoon" seemed familiar. It brought me back to this post on the "Tarner" family silversmithing concern. I noted the the image, previously uploaded by myself, of Johannes Hendrikus Tarner's mark had ben lost. Here is an composite image of the original "a" mark from 1860 and the Johannes Hendrikus Tarner mark on this on line spoon. This "K" date letter, I believe, dates the spoon to 1844.

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Fishless