Help with identifying Dutch markings

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caramba1
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Help with identifying Dutch markings

Postby caramba1 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:53 pm

Please help me to identify the silver markings on this Dutch silver miniature of a boy holding a kite - thanks.
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Re: Help with identifying Dutch markings

Postby oel » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:17 pm

Hi Caramba, welcome to the forum.

The miniature appears to have the city guild mark, the Crowned St. Andrew's crosses, of Amsterdam and the Crowned V; duty mark for foreign and other untaxed objects used 1814-1893. This duty mark does not give any guarantee of a precious metal standard of fineness. This mark has been used on metal with a 250 minimum silver content as a duty mark. This mark was destined for all imported, unmarked and invalid marked objects of foreign, national and unknown origin. Upon the invalidation of the hallmarks of Louis Napoleon’s kingdom of Holland and those of the French Empire in 1816, this mark also has been used as a tax free census mark. The third and partial mark (?B?) could be the maker’s mark but I am unable to identify the maker. Before 1734, silver of 2nd Standard; no date letter was stamped but only the city mark of Amsterdam; for more info see; viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28590" Amsterdam.The broad line in the middle is a proof- strike made by the assayer where he removed some silver to determine the minimum fineness.
Résumé; your miniature guild city mark of Amsterdam, 2nd standard in Dutch ‘Kleine Keur’ at; tien penningen or (833,333 / 1000) minimum fineness or 83.3% pure silver and probably made around the turn of the 17th- early 18th century and maker’s mark unidentified.

Oel

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Re: Help with identifying Dutch markings

Postby caramba1 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:36 am

Hello Oel,
Thanks for your time and expertise - brilliant.
caramba1

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Re: Help with identifying Dutch markings

Postby zilverik » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:03 am

Hi,

The makersmark B looks very much like the mark of Jan Breda, page 24 of Nederlandse Zilverminiaturen van John Endlich. Jan Breda worked from 1688-1725. Citroen 1975, nrs 78, 79.

Regards,

Zilverik

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Re: Help with identifying Dutch markings

Postby oel » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:47 pm

Hi All,
Yes, although the mark is only partly struck mark, it has some similarities with the mark of; Jan Breda 1688-1725, known miniature/toy-maker.
Please draw your own conclusion.

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Hi Zilverik where have you been hiding? Welcome back.

Best,

Oel


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