Help needed to identify hallmarks

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Junglebogen
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Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby Junglebogen » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:26 am

Circular plate/dish in sterling silver
Imported to Denmark and sold by English Silver House (E.S.H)
diameter is 24.5 cm
weight 311 grams
marked with Lion and Anchor and 925 and a sign I cannot identify

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AG2012
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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby AG2012 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:12 am

Hi,
The problem is inconsistency with Birmingham marks. No maker`s mark (sponsor`s) as expected; only letter B beside 925, no date letter.
It could be American (they often used both lion passant and anchor).But if really Birmingham, this kind of export silver with marks like those, are unknown to me.
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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby Junglebogen » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:35 am

I've tried to look at american markings without any luck

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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby Junglebogen » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:37 am

I´ll try to contact English Silver House here i Copenhagen and ask them - they should know what they have sold

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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby Junglebogen » Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:40 am

Well English Silver House got back to me this morning
they said that ESH was their initials
925 indicates that it´s sterling silver
lion is sterling
anchor is birgmingham
they cannot say why the english hallmarks are incomplete (normally 4 stamp)
Thay cannot identify the engraved letter (LB og TB) between 925 and the Lion
hmmm ? - anyone with an idéa ?
I think that maybe the dish was made for export in England

is there annother place to move this post - not shure that I´m able to move it.

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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby silvermakersmarks » Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:23 am

Despite what ESH implied to you this anchor (and therefore also the lion passant) are not official Birmingham hallmarks. In particular this exact punch shape is one which has never been used by the Birmingham Assay Office. I suspect that ESH or their supplier must have applied these stamps themselves.

The engraved letter is simply an upper case B in the gothic style.

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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby Junglebogen » Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:42 am

Glad that is cleared
Guess I will have to get it checked if its Sterling silver at all !
But certainly feel like it

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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby AG2012 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 12:52 pm

It is sterling; ESH is a reputable retailer, they would not sell anything marked 925 of lower fineness.
The origin of the plate is another story; to make it profitable, they had it made elsewhere with lowest production cost.
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Re: Help needed to identify hallmarks

Postby Junglebogen » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:16 am

Yes - thats exactly my thoughts on this piece
English Silver House is/was large silver seller here in DK (E.S.H.est, 1969 and still active)
So the production would be 60's and up

I was just very confused about the gothic B in the markings.
Think this is a done deal !

It has the right "feelling" as Sterling does.


Birmingham , no
Sterling silver , yes (marked with the lion and 925)
English Silver House , Yes - ESH
guess it's a close we can get to this item

Thanks for all the inputs

Stay safe

Gretings from Denmark !


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