button Birmingham Date ?

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button Birmingham Date ?

Postby buttonbug » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:18 pm

I cannot tell if the z date mark is 1899-1900 or 1924-1925 on L&S couple button
https://flic.kr/p/2kaNp6J
https://flic.kr/p/2kaJyor

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby buttonbug » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:05 pm

ok finally got it! for flickr I hit share then choose BBC code tab then copied, when I went to post on this forum I had to choose URL and past BBC code from Flickr. NOW it shows picture. Hope this is helpful to others!

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby AG2012 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:08 pm

Hi,
It is 1899.
Regards

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby AG2012 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:12 pm

Based on concave (curve inwards) horizontal lines on cursive letter Z.

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby user701 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:38 am

The maker is Levi & Salaman

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby silvermakersmarks » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:49 am

The other aid to dating Birmingham is that the anchor is on its side 1859-1899. If 1924 the anchor would be upright.

Phil

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby buttonbug » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:42 pm

Thank you all ever so much for you helpful quick responses. I have the Pocket Edition of Jackson's Hallmarks last copyright date 2000 page 84 where I found the hallmarks in question but shows the anchor upright for 1899-1900. I am familiar that the L&S is the makers mark Levi & Salaman as I have several other of their buttons.

Are there other silver hallmarks books I should check out? I will be posting some more buttons I have been unable to identify throughout my years of button collecting.
Thanks in advance
Debra

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby silvermakersmarks » Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:35 am

Reference books for hallmarks do not show exact representations of all sets of marks, although they don't tell you that; there can even be variations within a single year. The orientation of the Birmingham anchor does not seem to have been specified anywhere but has been derived from observation. I have tried, via my web site, to illustrate marks with real examples and to show major variations but it is still a work in progress with amendments being made as I recognise new variants.

Phil

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby buttonbug » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:34 am

Thanks Phil, will def check out your website!

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby user701 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:32 am

I only replied with who the maker was, as you did not mention them in your initial post. Apologies for my contribution that was not needed.

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby dognose » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:58 am

Hi User,

Your contribution was important. All responses given on this forum are for the benefit of anyone interested enough to read them, not just the OP.

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Re: button Birmingham Date ?

Postby buttonbug » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:15 am

user701, if I offended you, I'm sorry, that was not my intention, Deb


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