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please i need confirmation ..

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:05 pm
by charles-edwards
i just received a jug - i love it - but is it george fox ?
anybody who knows something about this wonderful silversmith ?
thx a lot CE

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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:16 pm
by MLF
Hello Charles,

Well, it certainly does seem to be George Fox.

I don't know anything about him though. Maybe someone else does...

Best wishes

Mikael
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:19 am
by nigel le sueur
George Fox and Charles Thomas took over their family firm when Charles Fox (no 2) retired they entered their first mark as a partnership in July 1841.
Charles Thomas retired in December 1860 and George entered his first mark in March 1861, his last mark was entered in March 1891 when he was 75 , it was entered by his son Robert Frederick Fox, born in 1845 who presumably had taken over the running of the firm.
George Fox died in 1910, when Robert entered his own mark and continued trading until 1921 when the firm closed down

Nigel
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:15 am
by dognose
Hi Charles,

The Foxs' were quite a dynasty, possibly starting with a Charles Fox, a silversmith who entered his mark in Dublin in 1747.
The Fox business we know of today started on 20th October 1801 when Charles Fox (1), entered into partnership with James Turner at 3, Old Street, London. The partnership was short-lived, and Charles Fox entered his mark alone on 5th September 1804 at 139, Old Street, London. He retired about 1822 and died in 1838.
He was succeeded by his son Charles (2), (b.1777-d.1850), entering his first mark 19th February 1822. He died of an attack of bronchitis that lasted six weeks!
Charles (2) had four sons, three of which were silversmiths, Charles Thomas Fox (b.1801-d.1872) and George Fox (b.1816-d.1910) took over the firm entering their first mark in 1841.
Another son Frederick (b.1810-d.1884), entered his first mark in 1852, this was a separate business in partnership with his son, also Frederick, this was probably a financial partnership only, Frederick Senior was known to be a corn chandler, Frederick Junior was a silversmith, becoming free in 1852.
The work of Charles Thomas and George Fox was of the finest quality and showed wonderful imagination, they were truly great craftsmen, they rank among the best English silversmiths. George entered a separate mark on his own in 1852 and entered his last mark alone in 1891. Charles Thomas retired in 1860 and George ran the business on his own until he was joined by his son, Robert Frederick Fox (b.1845). Robert took over the business after his father's death in 1910 until 1921 when the firm closed down.

Trev.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:17 am
by dognose
Hi Nigel,

Sorry about the overlap, I must learn to type faster!

Regards Trev.
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maaaany thx

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:21 am
by charles-edwards
oh dear - so may thanks to all of you !!!
kind and warm regards from C. E .
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