Help with Silver Bullet Marks

[bisi]

Hello - I am trying to figure this one out but not having much luck.

It is about 5" long and 1" in diameter.

I can determine the silver mark and it looks like "EE" or "EF" is the maker. What I can't figure out is the city mark. Can anybody tell me what city it might be and who the maker might also be? I've spent hours and hours on this site looking at every mark and can't find either. I am also assuming the 'S' in the shield is the year marker if I've done my homework properly. Thanks for any help.
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[Granmaa]

Could it perhaps be FE for Frederick Edmonds? The date is 1893.

Miles
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[admin]

Hi,
That's the London leopard head, uncrowned version used after 1821 and I'll second Miles' nomination of Frederick Edmonds.

Regards, Tom
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[MLF]

Sorry - for some reason I got my big cats wrong! It is of course a Leopard, as Tom said, not a panther...

Best wishes

Mikael
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[Granmaa]

Interestingly (for me at least), the London cat's head is actually that of a lion which is clear from early heads especially pre-1736 where it has a mane.

I think I remember a silver book writing of a mis-translation of the French heraldic term "leopart" (which means Lion passant gaurdant) for leopard. Jackson's p.36 gives a bit of info.
But after 700 years, I think it'll always be called a leopard.

Leopard is etymologically linked to lion as well via Greek: leon-lion, pardos-panther. This was when the leopard was thought to be a hybrid animal.

Miles
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[admin]

The London Cat deserves a proper character's name, its face has so much personality, some years the arrogant smirking leer of an alley cat king, other years the goofy grin of a housecat who's run into too many glass doors.
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[bisi]

Thanks for all the help.
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[Granmaa]

I'm without my copy at the moment, but I think it was Grimwade who said that ever since the fifteenth century the lion's head has become less and less noble, and now more resembles an emaciated tom-cat.

My favourite is the one used for a long time around 1800 (pictured). I also like the lion passant from the same period. Lions will never seem scary again!

Miles


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[byron mac donald]

I am just trying to figure out what it is, is it salt shaker?
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[admin]

Bisi,
Could you give us the height measurement?

Thanks, Tom
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[byron mac donald]

Hi your silver majesty Tom-
Bisi states in the photo 5' x 1 " my question is still "What is it"
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[Granmaa]

A sugar sifter perhaps.

Miles
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[MLF]

So the leopard is strictly speaking a lion? Fascinating... and it does makes sense, I suppose.

Mikael
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[byron mac donald]

Thanks Miles
I thought it was kind of big for salt or pepper. I think I once saw this caliber round, believe it was for a side by side big game rifle, think it was made for a big game hunter?
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