Georgian Chamber Candlestick Makers Mark

[trabic]

Hello,

My Grandmother gave me this for my birthday and in writing a thank you note I decided to find out what it was. It appears to have been a gift from my Great-Grandmother and her Brother to their Mother, also named Anna, in 1921. I assumed it would have been from New York around that time.

Imagine my surprise when I looked up the Hallmarks on the bottom and from the Crowned Leopard, Left facing Duty mark and "k" it looks to me like it was originally from London 1785. The Snuffer has a very faded Lion Passant and "C" or "O" and I think a larger mark that I can not make out at all. The Nozzle also has a worn mark that I could not get to come out in a picture.

The only things I can read and have not found online is the Makers Mark, which appears to be upside-down "IC over TH" or maybe "OI over HL", and there seems to be "zs47' scrawled under the Hallmarks (only visible in the larger Hallmark picture). Can anyone help me out?

Thanks for the great site, and for the help.

George

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[dognose]

Hi, Your piece dates from 1785 it was made in London by John Crouch and Thomas Hannam they were a specialist maker of salvers , trays and candlesticks, their workshops were at 23, Giltspur Street, London when this was made,
regards Trev.
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[dognose]

Hi, Sorry about the crossed post, yes it was common for the makers mark to be upside down, this was because it was struck pre assay by the smith the others being struck at Goldsmiths Hall,
Trev.
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[trabic]

Thanks for the fast reply, and the additional information. You have helped make an old Lady quite happy.
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[dognose]

One other thing I should mention is that it bears the incuse duty mark, only used 1784/5 when it was replaced by one in cameo and it is somewhat uncommon.
Trev.
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